Group buy................

[Keith]

Check out this group buy we've started with Matt, go here: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380804&goto=newpost


Keith

[liquidtiger720]

Hey. I was just about to post this. Group buy for HID lights!!!! For those that are too lazy to move over and look.


Yes, H1 and 9006 are available.

5 people $260
10 people $250
15 people $240 <-- low as we'll go.

These will be "open box" - non retail packaging kits.

what does that mean?????

It means, you don't pay for a pretty box, tie wraps, and some mounting tabs (that are totally unnecessary).

What do you get:
Lifetime warranty Prolumen Ballasts and Ignitors.
5 year warranty ProLumen Bulbs (effectively lifetime)
Wiring Adapters for the H1 (9006s do not need them)
And a booklet for wiring (though you really don't need it).

[pmlmotorsports]

Hey. I was just about to post this. Group buy for HID lights!!!! For those that are too lazy to move over and look.


Yes, H1 and 9006 are available.

5 people $260
10 people $250
15 people $240 <-- low as we'll go.

These will be "open box" - non retail packaging kits.

what does that mean?????

It means, you don't pay for a pretty box, tie wraps, and some mounting tabs (that are totally unnecessary).

What do you get:
Lifetime warranty Prolumen Ballasts and Ignitors.
5 year warranty ProLumen Bulbs (effectively lifetime)
Wiring Adapters for the H1 (9006s do not need them)
And a booklet for wiring (though you really don't need it).

5000k is TOO BLUE, you will not get the brightness you are expecting from that high a rating. There is a reason why BMW, Lexus, Audi, Mercedes, etc have chosen 4000k-4300k. BE CAREFUL!!!! These are made in Taiwan, not exactly known for the high quality standards of the European or Japanese companies. To each his own, but anything over 4300K is not bright, just blue or purple and will make your night driving a real "experience" .....kinda like having black-lights in a nightclub (t-shirts glow a light purple) and it has the same effect on street signs and highway signs......you've been warned

PS, no Josh, it does not mean you can use your 9006 bulbs, than swap'em out for H1s. Two different bulbs entirely.

[liquidtiger720]

Ohhh, I knew that didnt sound right. :)

[TC535i]

Hey Keith, I can get this stuff cheaper, and you won't have to deal with Matt (but we won't go there...)

Hit me up.

[Keith]

5000k is TOO BLUE, you will not get the brightness you are expecting from that high a rating. There is a reason why BMW, Lexus, Audi, Mercedes, etc have chosen 4000k-4300k. BE CAREFUL!!!! These are made in Taiwan, not exactly known for the high quality standards of the European or Japanese companies. To each his own, but anything over 4300K is not bright, just blue or purple and will make your night driving a real "experience" .....kinda like having black-lights in a nightclub (t-shirts glow a light purple) and it has the same effect on street signs and highway signs......you've been warned

PS, no Josh, it does not mean you can use your 9006 bulbs, than swap'em out for H1s. Two different bulbs entirely.


Well, I've got to tell you that the 5000k's that were tried in my car sure didn't seem THAT blue to me.
We tried the yellowish 3000k's just for fun (very bright, but no yellow for me) the 5000k's and the 6000k's and I like the 5000k's the best.
Now obviously this was done in the middle of the day and the car facing inside the shop, but I really didn't see any blue at all.
When I croutched down and looked at my 9006's head on and then the 5000k's head on, I couldn't believe the difference.

I'm no expert, just trying to get a brighter light, my wife drives this car out in the country (very dark two lane road) to the winery and she/we need some brighter lights without spending an arm and a leg.

If anyone has any "brighter" ideas, please speak up!

Keith - '95 540

[Keith]

Hey Keith, I can get this stuff cheaper, and you won't have to deal with Matt (but we won't go there...)

Hit me up.

Tim, check your PM.

Keith

[SC David]

I'm really wanting to do HID's now. Although the H1's with euro projectors are a little better than the US ellipsoids, I still want some better light. If there are better deals out there, then I will definitely go a different route. I've never been a fan of Umnitzas sales tactics anyway.

[Bimmer Nut Ed]

How about just getting higher wattage 9006's? For my daughter, and a friend that have E34's I'd just like to get the higher wattage light bulbs. They are not the type that want to buy the expensive HID, and they are not really interested in it's coolness. But, I was just about to buy some 9006's for them from Bav Auto, and they do not sell the higher wattage bulbs anymore. What's with that! Anyone know where to get some 85 watt 9006's?

[Keith]

How about just getting higher wattage 9006's? For my daughter, and a friend that have E34's I'd just like to get the higher wattage light bulbs. They are not the type that want to buy the expensive HID, and they are not really interested in it's coolness. But, I was just about to buy some 9006's for them from Bav Auto, and they do not sell the higher wattage bulbs anymore. What's with that! Anyone know where to get some 85 watt 9006's?

I too am not interested in the "coolness" factor (as I posted here before:I'm no expert, just trying to get a brighter light, my wife drives this car out in the country (very dark two lane road) to the winery and she/we need some brighter lights without spending an arm and a leg.)

I just want some brighter lights, I currently have the Phillips 9005BV (BlueVision) in the car now and they first of all aren't blue and they are VERY dull next to these 5000k's that we tried.
Hell, I took out the Sylvania 9006HB4's (51 watt) and put put in these Phillip BV's (which are 65 watt) about two years ago and it's still not enough.

We'll see.

[liquidtiger720]

It's true, the stock e34 lighting is crap... I was going to wait for about a year before HID. I know I'll be traveling up and down from socal to norcal if I get into the schools I want, so there will be some late night traveling. I'd feel a lot safer with some brigher lights. I have sylvania silverstars with the 9005 mod. It's not bright at all.

~And of course, I am open to any better deals out there.

[bondheli]

5000k is TOO BLUE, you will not get the brightness you are expecting from that high a rating. There is a reason why BMW, Lexus, Audi, Mercedes, etc have chosen 4000k-4300k. BE CAREFUL!!!! These are made in Taiwan, not exactly known for the high quality standards of the European or Japanese companies. To each his own, but anything over 4300K is not bright, just blue or purple and will make your night driving a real "experience" .....kinda like having black-lights in a nightclub (t-shirts glow a light purple) and it has the same effect on street signs and highway signs......you've been warned

Thats not true; alot of cars such as audi, porsche, and ferrari use 6000k hids, and the BMW X5 uses closer to 8000k. I personally use hella ballasts with 8000k bulbs, and the lighting and drivability is much improved over stock. The problems you are talking about are more equated to 10000k+ and even then some 10000k setups provide more visibility than the stock e34 setup.

[Nick.Hay]

My 535i has 5,000k main beams... They look GREAT but are really, really **** as far as output!! And in the rainy conditions, forget it. Its like not having any lights at all!!

[bondheli]

Did you get a Jap import kit? pmlmotorsports is right about one thing, you cant buy the import hid kits and expect great results. I did alot of research on hids before I bought my setup, and I decided to go with oem ballasts and avoid the low quality jap import kits.

[Nick.Hay]

Mine are just halogen globes... No ballast packs and stuff. They are Philips however, so they are still german quality :)

[SC David]

Did you get a Jap import kit? pmlmotorsports is right about one thing, you cant buy the import hid kits and expect great results. I did alot of research on hids before I bought my setup, and I decided to go with oem ballasts and avoid the low quality jap import kits.
Hmm, I'm interested to see what your setup looks like. There is a 5er meet planned for August 7th in Pleasanton. Someone will probably post it here soon enough. Perfect opportunity... ;)

[Keith]

Hmm, I'm interested to see what your setup looks like. There is a 5er meet planned for August 7th in Pleasanton. Someone will probably post it here soon enough. Perfect opportunity... ;)

Yeah, well it's Livermore actually and I'm still working on it.

Anyway, bondheli, where are you located?

Keith

[SC David]

Yeah, well it's Livermore actually and I'm still working on it.

Anyway, bondheli, where are you located?

Keith
My bad. He's in Santa Cruz like me.

[Keith]

My bad. He's in Santa Cruz like me.


Cool!

[bondheli]

Im going to be in Vegas for a week in early august, so keep me posted on the date of the meet and I might be able to work my trip around it.

[Keith]

Im going to be in Vegas for a week in early august, so keep me posted on the date of the meet and I might be able to work my trip around it.

It's Aug 6th.

[bahnstormer]

euro projectors are essential for and hid application.
usa ones work ok, but free form lights and hids should
not be used together

jon k has 6000k, and its slightly bluish....i have 3000k and its
yellow and its awesome but illegal. according to teh rules
the light has to be white... so 8000k is a no-no as that is
bluish bordering on purple already.

oems do use 4000-4300 but that is pure pure white light.
5k has a tint of blue in it =]

as far as your wife goes i'd get some hella off road
pencil beam lights and stick em near the fogs...
u can aim those things and tuen day into night =]
they are also pretty small

[Maki]

How about just getting higher wattage 9006's? For my daughter, and a friend that have E34's I'd just like to get the higher wattage light bulbs. They are not the type that want to buy the expensive HID, and they are not really interested in it's coolness. But, I was just about to buy some 9006's for them from Bav Auto, and they do not sell the higher wattage bulbs anymore. What's with that! Anyone know where to get some 85 watt 9006's?

Ed, this is the guy I go to for lighting mods, and a list of what he has:
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/bulb_types/bulb_types.html

He sells HIR 9011/9012 bulbs, which are adaptable in a manner similar to the 9005s. As you can see by the chart, the HIRs produce about 50% more lumens than a standard 9004 bulb. I have them in one of my cars, and it's a clear improvement without the risk of melting a housing or frying the harness. Of course the upgrade is no march for HIDs.

I paid $38 per bulb plus shipping. Stern's site is not too web-friendly, but he's a first-class vendor and an honest broker. He doesn't sell blue bulbs or any trash.

Here's another vendor: http://finemotoring.com/ ... a little better salesman than Dan, and his price is a little cheaper...I haven't dealt with him, though.

Russ Maki

[nuwde]

Im going to be in Vegas for a week in early august, so keep me posted on the date of the meet and I might be able to work my trip around it.

so what exactly do you have for your lights and where did you get it from?

[nuwde]

euro projectors are essential for and hid application.
usa ones work ok, but free form lights and hids should
not be used together

jon k has 6000k, and its slightly bluish....i have 3000k and its
yellow and its awesome but illegal. according to teh rules
the light has to be white... so 8000k is a no-no as that is
bluish bordering on purple already.

oems do use 4000-4300 but that is pure pure white light.
5k has a tint of blue in it =]

as far as your wife goes i'd get some hella off road
pencil beam lights and stick em near the fogs...
u can aim those things and tuen day into night =]
they are also pretty small

how can i tell if i have u.s. or euro projectors? i have a 92 525i euro spec (I think - it was bought in germany).

[Mobius]

How about just getting higher wattage 9006's? For my daughter, and a friend that have E34's I'd just like to get the higher wattage light bulbs. They are not the type that want to buy the expensive HID, and they are not really interested in it's coolness. But, I was just about to buy some 9006's for them from Bav Auto, and they do not sell the higher wattage bulbs anymore. What's with that! Anyone know where to get some 85 watt 9006's?I'd suggest a LOT of caution with overwatt bulbs in E34s. I've seen a fair number of "OMG I MELTED MY WIRING HARNESS/FRIED MY LKM" threads (mostly on some of the lesser BMW forums out there) resulting from people who decided to go overwatt. If you go this route, you should seriously consider running relays and higher gauge wiring to the headlamps.

Even ignoring the wiring, if your lamp housings are plastic, those will melt, too.

HIR bulbs are supposedly fine. At least, I'm personally still holding my opinion on those.

[Paul in NZ]

hmmm the aussie kit i was looking at is $1700 .....