My UUC Track transmission mounts came!

[Jon K]

Project for tomorrow! It looks like it anyway!

They're solid mounts with aluminum reinforcers... transmission vibration increases only minutely... stiffens drivetrain 200%

http://e34.digital7.com/BMW%20Work/transmounts.jpg

[Blitzkrieg Bob]

If they are soft/stock, your bell housing & end cone will be subject to the engine torque.

[stx133]

where from, how much, do they work.....

tell all once you have them installed and tested please

[BigKriss]

Project for tomorrow! It looks like it anyway!

They're solid mounts with aluminum reinforcers... transmission vibration increases only minutely... stiffens drivetrain 200%

http://e34.digital7.com/BMW%20Work/transmounts.jpg

damm, i just replaced my transmission mounts. can you show me link to where I can purchase these, and how much are they?

[Jason]

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[bahnstormer]

stiffens drivetrain 200%
hehehe
sounds like one of those 3am tv ads =]

[Jon K]

stiffens drivetrain 200%
hehehe
sounds like one of those 3am tv ads =]


erm, martin... i hope you're joking?

If not, and unfortunately I think you're not... do you realize what difference track transmission mounts make?

Quoted from UUC website:

UUC Transmission Mount with TME 320i Mount with TME Stock BMW Mount
Height 34.3mm 35.9mm 34.3mm
Stud Size 8mm 10mm 8mm
Decrease in deflection 300%-450% 354% --

It's completely noticeable. There is some slight slight cabin vibration (think first gear when starting up a hill and letting RPMs dip...) if you can call it that, its just transferring more transmission movement into the chassis, but its not noticeable. G/F hasn't mentioned it yet.

[632 Regal]

in the good old racing days, putting on solid steel motor mounts with a rubber trans mount would guarantee a busted trans case. A solid trand mount with rubber engine mounts would guarantee a busted trans case.

just a thought.

[Jon K]

in the good old racing days, putting on solid steel motor mounts with a rubber trans mount would guarantee a busted trans case. A solid trand mount with rubber engine mounts would guarantee a busted trans case.

just a thought.


Thanks for the warning jeff but they're not solid, theyre hard hard rubber, and they've been around for a long time... M3s use them no issue.

[Martin in Bellevue]

I used larger gearbox mounts for the early 320i. They are much beefier thant the e34 535 mounts, & were recommended by a local indy shop.

[Jon K]

I used larger gearbox mounts for the early 320i. They are much beefier thant the e34 535 mounts, & were recommended by a local indy shop.


320i mounts are an upgrade yes, the UUC ones are an upgrade from those. the 320i mounts require modification to work.

[632 Regal]

Michael Jackson has another dude charging abuse.

[Blitzkrieg Bob]

Buy a handful of turnbuckles and lock down the engine and trans.

Worked great on my Rotary Mazdas....no more broken motor mounts and all the torque and vibration goes right to the frame for that real go kart ride.

[MTRIPLE]

IMO, this is a useful upgrade on higher horsepower cars where there is going to be considerable lateral movement in the drivetrain OR cars that are going to be driven HARD(i.e. track cars).

I wouldnt bother on my E34, not worth it... However, I do have them on my E30.

[bahnstormer]

erm, martin... i hope you're joking?

If not, and unfortunately I think you're not... do you realize what difference track transmission mounts make?

Quoted from UUC website:

UUC Transmission Mount with TME 320i Mount with TME Stock BMW Mount
Height 34.3mm 35.9mm 34.3mm
Stud Size 8mm 10mm 8mm
Decrease in deflection 300%-450% 354% --

It's completely noticeable. There is some slight slight cabin vibration (think first gear when starting up a hill and letting RPMs dip...) if you can call it that, its just transferring more transmission movement into the chassis, but its not noticeable. G/F hasn't mentioned it yet.


oh no i know they will help quite a lot, its just that
it was worded funny!

uuc of course does sell some great stuff so 200% might even be accurate
it was just the way they said it heheh made my chuckle a bit :p

[Jon K]

IMO, this is a useful upgrade on higher horsepower cars where there is going to be considerable lateral movement in the drivetrain OR cars that are going to be driven HARD(i.e. track cars).

I wouldnt bother on my E34, not worth it... However, I do have them on my E30.


You would if it were supercharged.

[MTRIPLE]

You would if it were supercharged.

Correct, I had them on my Supercharged M3 and they were a great mod, especially a safeguard against the infamous "money shift" on the M3's. As mentioned, I also have them on my E30 track car because it gets worked pretty hard.

I didnt realize your car was supercharged... details?

[Jon K]

Correct, I had them on my Supercharged M3 and they were a great mod, especially a safeguard against the infamous "money shift" on the M3's. As mentioned, I also have them on my E30 track car because it gets worked pretty hard.

I didnt realize your car was supercharged... details?


As I already have the urethane subframe reinforcementplates, my only real weak link is motor mounts right now. I will probably go with a soft urethane or poly mount.

It's a custom ASA-based setup. I JUST received my 150mm pulley in the mail today from germany! Very pysched.

[MTRIPLE]

As I already have the urethane subframe reinforcementplates, my only real weak link is motor mounts right now. I will probably go with a soft urethane or poly mount.

It's a custom ASA-based setup. I JUST received my 150mm pulley in the mail today from germany! Very pysched.


Sounds hot, Vortech based? I had a modified Dinan setup on my M3 with custom tuning by AA, 6 inch crank pulley/8 rib belt setup from RMS, and water/methanol injection. Car made 322rwhp at 11psi...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/Mtriple/DSC00153.jpg

[Jon K]

Sounds hot, Vortech based? I had a modified Dinan setup on my M3 with custom tuning by AA, 6 inch crank pulley/8 rib belt setup from RMS, and water/methanol injection. Car made 322rwhp at 11psi...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/Mtriple/DSC00153.jpg


Not vortech based, its an ASA blower clutched, as used by Alpina. 320hp @ 11 psi is very low. RMS probably had something to do with that. 8 psi 3.0L's are making 315, 10 psi M3s are now making into the 380's - 400's

[MTRIPLE]

Not vortech based, its an ASA blower clutched, as used by Alpina. 320hp @ 11 psi is very low. RMS probably had something to do with that. 8 psi 3.0L's are making 315, 10 psi M3s are now making into the 380's - 400's

Please re-read my post, I stated that the only thing that was RMS was the pulley. And you are incorrect in saying that 320 is low, its actually right on target considering that I was still running the OBD2 manifold, and the tuning was on the conservative side(by design) as it was a track car. AA tuned a little on the rich side as to try and keep cylinder temps down.

M3's that are making 340 to 400's are running a few more mods that I was not. OBD1 intake, exhaust, larger injectors, and even cams are a few of the things that takes the M3 to that level. Beleive me, you are preaching to the choir here....

[Jon K]

Please re-read my post, I stated that the only thing that was RMS was the pulley. And you are incorrect in saying that 320 is low, its actually right on target considering that I was still running the OBD2 manifold, and the tuning was on the conservative side(by design) as it was a track car. AA tuned a little on the rich side as to try and keep cylinder temps down.

M3's that are making 340 to 400's are running a few more mods that I was not. OBD1 intake, exhaust, larger injectors, and even cams are a few of the things that takes the M3 to that level. Beleive me, you are preaching to the choir here....


Well I don't think youre fair in listing injectors as an option you didn't do. There is no way you were 11 psi on stock injectors. Even conservatively tuned, i'd hope to have more than 320 hp on a 3.0 or 3.2 blown. Why drop HUGE money on a Dinan blower and run stock exhaust? OBDI manifold swap is like $200. Everyone knows the OBDI manifold is single handedly the best mod on an OBDII car. I am sorry but if I was in double digit boost figures, i'd expect to see 380+. There is NO reason a 10psi+ car should not be in high 300's to low 400's. I notice your not intercooled or aftercooled, so if you were running 11 psi, you'd have to retard the **** out of the car to not detonate 11 psi straight... which again would be silly considering the supporting equipment you had.

[MTRIPLE]

Well I don't think youre fair in listing injectors as an option you didn't do. There is no way you were 11 psi on stock injectors. Even conservatively tuned, i'd hope to have more than 320 hp on a 3.0 or 3.2 blown. Why drop HUGE money on a Dinan blower and run stock exhaust? OBDI manifold swap is like $200. Everyone knows the OBDI manifold is single handedly the best mod on an OBDII car. I am sorry but if I was in double digit boost figures, i'd expect to see 380+. There is NO reason a 10psi+ car should not be in high 300's to low 400's. I notice your not intercooled or aftercooled, so if you were running 11 psi, you'd have to retard the **** out of the car to not detonate 11 psi straight... which again would be silly considering the supporting equipment you had.

1. Where did I say I was on stock injectors? I was on the Dinan supplied 28lb injectors. I had a Dinan supercharger package with the Vortech V2-SQ blower. Guys that are in the neighborhood of the hp you are talking about are running 30+ injectors.

2. When I refer to exhaust, I'm talking about the entire system(headers, midpipe, cats) I was only running a cat back, nothing more.

3. You are correct on the OBD1 manifold, but 2 years ago, that was uncharted water. My car was built and tuned for reliability, again it saw alot of track time. There was only a handful of guys that were running the OBD1 manifold with the same setup, all RMS by the way.

4. Show me a car that is in the high 300's to low 400's and I will show you a car that has larger injectors, larger hfm, OBD1 manifold, custom tuning, exhaust work, and most likely cams.

5. The car showed no signs of detonation on the dyno with stock Dinan software, water injection, and 11psi. There was a less than conservative AFR at higher rpm's, however...

6. I get the impression that you are trying to slam me for my setup. As mentioned, it was a CONSERVATIVE setup because of the tracktime that the car saw. It was designed for reliability and not to push the envelope, which by the way, is exactly what the 400hp 11psi cars are doing.

Paul e. over at bimmerforums was the pioneer of the 11psi Dinan package and his car with tuning and water injection was in the neighborhood of 340rwhp.

[Scott H]

:D care to 'splain?

and what if MTRIPLE was happy with his car the way it was? Just because you are blowing your car doesn't make you the new expert. Different strokes for different folks......but for now, get back to your new broken tranny mount......

[Jon K]

:D care to 'splain?

and what if MTRIPLE was happy with his car the way it was? Just because you are blowing your car doesn't make you the new expert. Different strokes for different folks......but for now, get back to your new broken tranny mount......


Issue handled as of last night ;)

UUC shipped a new one out same day and I got it.

Quote from movie....


BOOYA! :p



I am not bashing anything, the way you said "they have injectors, etc" made it sound like you were not running any similar upgrades. You failed to mention you had water injection, which obviously is why you didn't detonate. I was not trying to rip you apart, I was merely saying that on that much boost, even 2.5L's are seeing more horsepower.

[mattyb]

yeh nice mounts jon

[MTRIPLE]

You failed to mention you had water injection, which obviously is why you didn't detonate.


Your reading comprehension = not so good... ;)

Read my first post with the picture, you will see that I mentioned water/methanol injection.... Heck, you can even see the pump and the injection line to the intake...