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Qube
08-18-2005, 07:41 AM
::.. Price to do spark plugs at dealer...

$210 CAD... of course parts are about $30 CAD ;)

Of course, that labor will warrant against dropping an insulator into the cylinder or something, but I can't justify the $180 otherwise.

Time to check around for who has the right socket for the job...

On that note, what gap are we looking at for NGK BKR6EK's... or are these pregapped or not-gap'able?

western99
08-18-2005, 08:51 AM
It should not take you more than an hour to do the job. If you are in the GTA, just go and see Bruno. He will do it for you no problem and at a much more reasonable cost.

Brian

Qsilver7
08-18-2005, 11:04 AM
...Time to check around for who has the right socket for the job...
You mean you don't have the spark plug tool in the trunk's tool kit? :D

It even has an embedded clasp that holds on to the end of the spark plug so that you can align the plug correctly to help prevent cross-threading it.
http://www.bavauto.com/assets/imglib500/71111179745.jpg

...and you use it in conjunction with the BMW 3-in-1 tool (wheel & tire pin/sparkplug handle/fog light assembly release tool) :D
http://www.bavauto.com/assets/imglib500/71111093774.jpg

Blitzkrieg Bob
08-18-2005, 04:29 PM
And for a fist full of dollars you can get a nice craftsman sparkplug socket with the rubber insert, an extension, and even a ratchet.

and for a few dollars more...

A gapping tool just to make sure those bums at NGK did gap the plugs right.

The stuff in the trunk is only good for road side repairs... to get you out of Watts before dark.

Remember always use a little anti seize compound, and start your plugs by hand to prevent cross threading.

willobmw
08-18-2005, 04:59 PM
Come on Bob you don't even go in Watts in the daytime. Sounds like you need some diversity training. Just stick to the subject matter and keep the negative stuff to yourself.
Just my 02 cents worth Bro.
Willobmw

Blitzkrieg Bob
08-18-2005, 05:47 PM
Don’t worry I'll spread my caustic personality equally regardless of race, religion. National origin or sexual orientation.

Oh yeah, can't forget the the gimps too with the ADA laws.

dacoyote
08-18-2005, 06:02 PM
And for a fist full of dollars you can get a nice craftsman sparkplug socket with the rubber insert, an extension, and even a ratchet.

and for a few dollars more...

A gapping tool just to make sure those bums at NGK did gap the plugs right.

The stuff in the trunk is only good for road side repairs... to get you out of Watts before dark.

Remember always use a little anti seize compound, and start your plugs by hand to prevent cross threading.

Isn't the spark plugs in the BMW a non standard size?

What craftsman tool matchs up with them?

-Charles

Blitzkrieg Bob
08-18-2005, 07:08 PM
There are only two sizes of plugs used in cars 13/16 & 5/8.

632 Regal
08-18-2005, 07:46 PM
Bob this was went over a while back when I posted that you needed antisieze for the plugs...I got my ass reamed out. Something about the zink plating you dont need it now ... AND to boot if you DO add it you will over tighten them and strip the threads.

just what I got beat up about.

Blitzkrieg Bob
08-18-2005, 07:53 PM
wow, you'd really have to gorilla the plugs in to strip it out.

Hand thight and a quarter turn is all you need.

I'll keep using my anti-seize goo, and stay out of the machine shop.

Qube
08-18-2005, 09:36 PM
You mean you don't have the spark plug tool in the trunk's tool kit?

It even has an embedded clasp that holds on to the end of the spark plug so that you can align the plug correctly to help prevent cross-threading it.

...and you use it in conjunction with the BMW 3-in-1 tool (wheel & tire pin/sparkplug handle/fog light assembly release tool) :D
http://www.bavauto.com/assets/imglib500/71111093774.jpg

HAHA! You know, I haven't investigated half the tools in the car. Is there a chart somewhere for all their applications? :)

FOGLIGHT ASSEMBLY RELEASE TOOL?!?!?!?!?!? DAMN! If I only know about it before...

Gayle
08-18-2005, 10:58 PM
Don’t worry I'll spread my caustic personality equally regardless of race, religion. National origin or sexual orientation.

Oh yeah, can't forget the the gimps too with the ADA laws.


I am pretty sick of political correctness. That is one of the things I love about this board.

shogun
08-19-2005, 10:19 AM
Tightening torque is 25 Nm.
And when you do that, there is no problem.
BTW: for the V12 engine the best tool is the one from the tool box in the trunk.
And to get # 12 out, you need to remove quite some parts beforehand.

Bill R.
08-19-2005, 10:34 AM
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There are only two sizes of plugs used in cars 13/16 & 5/8.

Bill R.
08-19-2005, 10:57 AM
thread and most of the manufacturers say you don't need to use any antiseize on the plug threads anymore. If you poke around bosch's, ngk's champions etc websites you'll find that info. If you insist on using it you should only use a very small amount and it does change the amount of torque needed dramatically. And yes i have seen spark plugs stripped out on aluminum head from overtightening when using antiseize. Ford v8's in the 4.6 and up are famous for it on the newer cars and trucks. It may not happen the first time you change the plugs and overtighten them unknowingly but you put that much additional stress on the threads each time and eventually it happens. Although i rarely see a stripped head nowdays compared to say 30 years ago.







Bob this was went over a while back when I posted that you needed antisieze for the plugs...I got my ass reamed out. Something about the zink plating you dont need it now ... AND to boot if you DO add it you will over tighten them and strip the threads.

just what I got beat up about.