ONE OF A KIND...M3 like no other

[romus]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BMW-M3_W0QQitemZ4590984857QQcategoryZ84599QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

ebay is full of these things. I saw an E30 M3 - 2.3L engine...okeeey (actual wider M3 body tho), then i saw a 323i (2.5L engine in descriptions) man...

[winfred]

uhhhh the e30 m3 did have a 2.3 4 banger and a 323i e36 does have a 2.5 6 banger, the italian e30 m3 had a 2.0 version of the s14 due to tax reasons and the evo bad ass version was 2.5

[romus]

yes, it was a 4 cyl but not 2.3 but 2.7L

Edit: and if 323i had 2.5L, then what did 325 have? 2.8L? Then 328i had 3.2L? I know the numbers are rounded off and do not represent ACTUAL engine size down to a ccm but what you are saying is a bit too much of a rounding off, i think.

[ryan roopnarine]

yes, it was a 4 cyl but not 2.3 but 2.7L

Edit: and if 323i had 2.5L, then what did 325 have? 2.8L? Then 328i had 3.2L? I know the numbers are rounded off and do not represent ACTUAL engine size down to a ccm but what you are saying is a bit too much of a rounding off, i think.


2300 is pretty accurate

http://www.bmwworld.com/engines/s14.htm

....2.8? 3.2?

the m72 v12 is/was marked on cars as the x50, ie, the bmw e31 850 was called an 850 through all the years despite them eventually going from 5.0l to 5.4l, same with the 750 between the e32 and e38 changes despite the increase of .4 litres. the same is true for the 323i, 528i, 328i displacement.

[romus]

hmm ok my bad, wasn't aware of the 2.3 at all. I thought E30 M3 was a 2.7

But you gotta admit, the e28 in the link i posted is NOT an m3! :)

[Bill R.]

323 was produced they didn't have a 330 and bmw marketing didn't like the idea of a 325 and a 328, they felt there wasn't enough difference between them if they called them that so the 2.5 liter sedan was sold as the 323 designation and the 2.8 was the 328. Later when the 330 came out they changed the designation on the 323 to 325.. same displacement, but now there seemed like a bigger difference in engines




yes, it was a 4 cyl but not 2.3 but 2.7L

Edit: and if 323i had 2.5L, then what did 325 have? 2.8L? Then 328i had 3.2L? I know the numbers are rounded off and do not represent ACTUAL engine size down to a ccm but what you are saying is a bit too much of a rounding off, i think.

[Nick.Hay]

Has anyone noticed that this is a 5er??

[genphreak]

Has anyone noticed that this is a 5er??I can't believe noone bothered to look at it... :D

A fellow even asked the question on eBay and got an answer "oh yes, its an 86 535, made a typo"... sheeyat! The damn things an E28 and the owner thinks its an M3??? They hardly go that hard!!!

Perhaps he just downloaded the pictures and posted the ad hoping to fill his paypal account! :D

[Johntee540]

One of them is silver / Widebody and has the 4 cyl M3 Motor in it. I am trying to get him to sell it to me. It would be a sweet Garage queen weekend toy.

He also just bought a red one -90- from one of his other customers. This was a car the customer brought in to him to put a 3.2L M Roadster engine and drive train in it. He did Cams/Headwork/Chips/Exhaust on it for the previous owner. It dyno's around 400hp. I just love the way that engine looks in the bay!

He is going to post both of them on his website - I will let you know when. JT

[Jon K]

Romus,

The guys here know what they're talking about. It's sort of common knowledge too. The E36 316 had a 1.8L in its early form, some E36 318s were 1.8L but later 318s were 1.9. I think most Z3 1.8's were 1.9. The 323s are factory detuned 2.5Ls, the M3s had 3.0L in '95 and 3.2L in '97 - '99 there were no '96 M3s to my knowledge, though there were a FEW '94s.

[Jon K]

One of them is silver / Widebody and has the 4 cyl M3 Motor in it. I am trying to get him to sell it to me. It would be a sweet Garage queen weekend toy.

He also just bought a red one -90- from one of his other customers. This was a car the customer brought in to him to put a 3.2L M Roadster engine and drive train in it. He did Cams/Headwork/Chips/Exhaust on it for the previous owner. It dyno's around 400hp. I just love the way that engine looks in the bay!

He is going to post both of them on his website - I will let you know when. JT
Just to clarify, all E30 m3s are widebody flared fenders. If you want you can add a couple different parts. There are E30 M3 Evo III fenders which are a little bit wider to fit the wider wheels. There are also wider fiberglass fenders (I am not sure, they might be the Evo III fenders - i am not sure if the Evo III's are FG or not) that flar out the fenders about 1/2" more or so. But yeah, all E30 M3 have flares.

[romus]

yes i know all this. :) That is what i said up there in second post somewhere. M3 = 3.2L etc. I have an 1.8L E30 and a friend with an 1.9L 318i. I did mention up there that i was aware of bmw rounding the numbers off. Also they're increasing the weight of the vehicle which calls was stronger engine, but they are'nt gonna mess with the designations and call it 319i, yes. All i didn't know is that 323 had 2.5. Logically 2.5 would be 325 and 323 an 2.3.

But thanks for enlightening me, everyone

[romus]

Ok things changed quite a bit from E30 to E46. I was talking about E30's, guys

[romus]

quote: But you gotta admit, the e28 in the link i posted is NOT an m3!

go back up to my 2nd or 3rd post, guys. THAT was the point of this post, that it's NOT an M3 at all, but some E28 with M stickers :)