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Gayle
12-16-2005, 08:35 PM
This is way more than most of you want to know, but I am so excited, I just have to share. Those of you who have been reading my posts for a while now that I am always pissing and moaning about not being able to find a mechanic worthy to work on my car. And people on this board always tell me I have to work it myself to be satisfied, which pushed me enough to buy tools but enough not to use them. Well I found a great Indy and had a great day watching every move.

What the Indy was like
I went to La Jolla Independent. It is about 20 miles from my house and not convenient to get to, but was it ever worth it. The place looks like a junkyard so you are definitely not paying for the cappuccino machine. The reason it looks like a junkyard is they are the leading coupe restorer in the county. They just finished restoring coupe to the tune of $106,000. People pay for their cars to sit on their lot until LJI can get to them. They also sell used and hard to find parts on the Internet. The mechanic who worked on my car had posted on this board briefly back in October—sdlongboarder (aka Chris).

What I was looking for
What I had been looking for was someone who would listen to my car and drive it and be able to identify and diagnose problems on this basis. Someone who has seen a lot of e34s and recognizes instantly what is wrong. I got it. I went on the test drive with Chris and he could hear my brake notice, my suspension noise, identified a transmission problem and a probable need for an alignment, and an issue with the short shifter. When we got back, he worked on the car outside of the bay so there would not be a problem with their insurance if I were in the bay. He explained to me what he was doing and identified all the engine parts for me. He showed me parts needing replacement now, things that will be needed in the future, and told me places to watch that problems could develop. Then later on, I was able to inspect the underside of my car when it was up on the lift.

Felt totally validated for buying this car

Valve cover came off—Chris: “Hey guys, look at this.” Me: “What?” “How clean this is. This car has had regular oil changes. Usually it is carmalized and this is really clean.” A little later they sent the salesman from the BMW dealership over to look at my valve cover (he was having his car worked on there cause he doesn’t trust the dealers service. Ha).

Other mechanic, Spanky: “You could eat off that engine bay”

Chris: “This car has lots of new parts. The fan clutch was 04. It has new belts and hoses. It has a new giebo and new tranny mounts. The suspension is good. The brakes are good. The clutch is great. It must have been garaged because for an east coast car it doesn’t have any rust except the muffler.”

Owner, Carl: “We don’t see many cars that impress us with their maintenance like this one.”

Other mechanic, Gary: “That is the best engine. That was the peak of BMW engineering. They don’t make cars like that anymore. 535s are the best and 5 speeds…And those wheels…do you know how sought after those are?


What the Service II did find

The cap and rotor needed to be replaced, as did one hose. There were platinum plugs (eek). The differential oil was kind of dirty. There was automatic transmission fluid for the manual transmission. The fuel filter was way overdue for replacement as the gas that drained out was pretty dirty. I got the coolant changed to BMW blue. Switched the oil weight from 10-40 to 20-50, which seems more appropriate for our temp range of about 40-90. The brake noise is just the way the Metal Masters are. And some oil got rid of my suspension squeak. The engine sounds wonderful after the valve adjustment.

Got the brake light sensor replaced and the door actuator fixed. Wow—was it humbling to see the door and the lock taken apart. Everything works and is wonderful. Advised me to forget about getting the code function in the OBC fixed and just get the bmw alarm installed.

All of this for $658. The labor was a mere $425. Is that a deal or what? And look at the education I got. And it was a full day of entertainment talking with the mechanics, owner, and other customers who were for the most part all interesting characters.

In my future
I have my next years repair plan. I will need new tie rods as they have a small amount of play in them. There is a minor leak from the power steering pump. I will probably be due for a radiator. Got a do it yourself suggestion for my low beams. Will replace the door brakes with the kit from Koala.

Santa is going to bring me a stainless steel muffler—just have to decide which brand.

Intangible benefits
I have graduated from the totally clueless to the somewhat clueless. I was able to understand the thread on coolant bypass and the throttle body today and that was not true before today’s education. I think I could do a tune up myself now. And now I have mechanics that know me and I know them and I would trust without being there. I can deal with them by phone now with complete trust.

It was a BMW fairy tale day. I fell in love with my car all over again. And now that I have external confirmation of how great my car is, I think I should get some more votes in the virtual car show.:)

AllGo'n'Show
12-16-2005, 09:33 PM
Sounds like your really happy with thier work.

I need to find someone locally like this, I know some what of what I am doing and can learn very quickly but not into the paying of $85 an hour on a large shop that sometimes doesn't know what they are doing. Need to find that special one shop around here, good rates, excellent service.

Alexlind123
12-16-2005, 09:40 PM
Thats great gayle! It sounds like you found the perfect shop to take your car. I could barely begin to hope for and one of the qualities that that shop has, like price, friendliness, quality and people who care about what they are doing and not trying to rip you off. I can only hope that such a place exists in my area and that i will stumble upon it.
I have just embarked on a quest to adjust my valves, i get a sense of satisfaction from a job well done on my car, especially since i reap the rewards. I also enjoy working on my car and fixing little problems that might arise here and there.
Here is a peek into the inside of my engine, it probably not as clean as yours though.
http://servo.postverket.us/alex/IMG_0119.JPG

Gayle
12-17-2005, 08:28 AM
Alex--I am always jealous when I hear people talk about the satisfaction of working on their own car. I will get there some day. I feel a step closer after yesterdays education. And I am happy to have a baseline assessment on my car. When I was contemplating working on the car myself, the valve adjustment is one I was thinking about because it didn't seem hard and the rewards would be so noticeable. Congrats on doing yours.

I have a link for you. This is thanks to BigKriss. It will resize your photos so they fit the screen.

Download from Microsoft that resizes photos (http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/Install/2/WXP/EN-US/ImageResizerPowertoySetup.exe)

Here is what your engine photo looks like after resizing. And very nice it is, I might add.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/e34Gayle/AlexsengineSmall.jpg

Scott H
12-17-2005, 08:32 AM
http://www.bimmer.info/bmw/shersted/Picture%20005-2.jpg

Gayle
12-17-2005, 08:42 AM
Another beautiful engine picture. Did you just rebuild your engine?

Scott it would be so much easier to appreciate your glorious engine if it fit on the screen. The resizer was not just for Alex. :)

Scott H
12-17-2005, 09:10 AM
The original picture was taken at full resolution 2272 x 1704 of a Canon G3 so I have already resized it to my liking. :p

This picture was taken awhile ago. I also found this!

http://www.bimmer.info/bmw/shersted/Picture%20002.jpg

I am rebuilding the engine right now to go in the 525iT


Another beautiful engine picture. Did you just rebuild your engine?

Scott it would be so much easier to appreciate your glorious engine if it fit on the screen. The resizer was not just for Alex. :)

Kalevera
12-17-2005, 09:31 AM
Carl is said to be the most knowledgable person in the country when it comes to the classics....I had no idea you were taking the car to him, excellent choice.

Gayle
12-17-2005, 09:35 AM
Carl is said to be the most knowledgable person in the country when it comes to the classics....I had no idea you were taking the car to him, excellent choice.

Yes Carl spoke fondly of Brett.

AllGo'n'Show
12-17-2005, 10:08 AM
I hope my head is that clean when I take my cover off :S, guess we will see.

ryan roopnarine
12-17-2005, 11:33 AM
im relieved to see that a great deal of the people on this board have engine oil varnish on their valvetrains, it makes me feel better that my engine may not have had synthetic oil for all of its life.

winfred
12-17-2005, 06:36 PM
if you want to see shitty valve train crud look at a new bimmer, basicly the plastic valve cover cars and up are sludge factorys thanks to the new extended factory mantaince intervile, i am seeing 99 and newer double vanos motors pukeing oil from solidified valve cover gaskets with signifigant sludge build up, not varnish but that pudding ****


im relieved to see that a great deal of the people on this board have engine oil varnish on their valvetrains, it makes me feel better that my engine may not have had synthetic oil for all of its life.

Kalevera
12-17-2005, 06:44 PM
if you want to see shitty valve train crud look at a new bimmer, basicly the plastic valve cover cars and up are sludge factorys thanks to the new extended factory mantaince intervile, i am seeing 99 and newer double vanos motors pukeing oil from solidified valve cover gaskets with signifigant sludge build up, not varnish but that pudding ****
http://www.bimmer.info/~lowell/sludgery/

Gayle
12-17-2005, 06:53 PM
http://www.bimmer.info/~lowell/sludgery/


OMG

winfred
12-17-2005, 07:05 PM
that's the ****, pudding, that free 16k oil change is a great deal aint it?!

willobmw
12-17-2005, 07:09 PM
And a great guy to boot. I met Carl over twenty years ago when we both lived in Houston. He was going to Rice University getting a masters or doctorate in Geology. I was just a young pup then happy to have a 2002. He had so many BMWs, at least three cabriolet 2002s. His beater (parts pick up car) was a Bavaria. I met him at Gerry Gerhardts (a place that used to and maybe still does sell BMW parts at wholesale to the general Houston population). I thought he worked there because he was always on on the Microfiche.
He convinced me that I could change the heater motor in the 2. It was a job and I recall having a few nuts and bolts leftover but I did it and it still works.
He also convinced me to join BMWCCA.
He is the man,
willobmw

Qsilver7
12-17-2005, 07:13 PM
that's the ****, pudding, that free 16k oil change is a great deal aint it?!
you can't be serious...this is from an 01 330i? :( :(

http://www.bimmer.info/~lowell/sludgery/01%20CPO%20330i%2082k%20-%201.jpg

winfred
12-17-2005, 08:02 PM
if changed by the book that's 4-5 changes i suspect they skipped one or two, that's the problem when you are pushing the limmits of your filtration, the oil itself practly doesn't wear out you should see what some of the diesel guys are doing with bypass filters, over 100k miles without a total change just filter changes and enough fresh oil to make up for what got lost with the filter, ever hear about the toilet paper filter? that one of the forms of bypass filtration


you can't be serious...this is from an 01 330i? :( :(

Rigmaster
12-17-2005, 09:00 PM
Yes Carl spoke fondly of Brett.


Yeah, I love Carl too........OH, you said BreTT!!! :)

Seriously, I met Carl a couple of years ago when we were out there for '02 fest west in San Luis Obispo. We stayed in SanDiego for a couple of days and stopped in to see Carl's place. He seems to have every nook and cranny of that place packed full of old BMW parts- mostly 2002's and CS coupes. We had been to a couple of the local pick n pull junkyards and told him about our finds (not many)...Carl said that he has guys from the MEX border up to Sacramento who hit the junkyards for him and pick all the good stuff before anyone else gets it. I think he's trying to corner the market on used 2002 sheet metal!!!



Bret.

misfortune
12-17-2005, 09:15 PM
As someone in the service industry, be sure to get a feel for your repair guys comfort level with you hanging around. Don't be that guy (girl lol) who asks 100000 questions and won't the repair guy work. I, for one, don't mind it, but make sure you are conscious that some might care.

If you're spending the money you're entitled to know whats going on and the serviceman should earn your trust, but at the same time, there is a point where it gets annoying.

Good luck on learning to work on your car. If your mechanic is really cool (like mine is/was) then he'll let you use his shop. Thats a frickin sweet arrangement.

I gave up working on my car for the most part, but I don't mind doing oil changes or brakes as long as I have the right stuff.

Gayle
12-17-2005, 09:19 PM
Yeah, I love Carl too........OH, you said BreTT!!! :)

He seems to have every nook and cranny of that place packed full of old BMW parts- mostly 2002's and CS coupes.

Bret.


You got it right. There was a 2002 that had vines hanging off it that the leaves were still green. It was definitely interesting walking around looking at the cars and parts. There was a 60 porche convertible there being detailed. I left my pocket camera at work on Thursday or I would have taken pictures of the place with all the coupes on up on the lifts and posted them. When I go back for my stainless steel muffler I will take pictures and put a listing for La Jolla Independent in the recommended repair places on this board.

Except I don't think Carl wants any more business. On Thursday, he had 5 tow trucks drop off cars for repairs. Apparently some days, the tow trucks are lined up on the boulevard waiting to get in.

hakwuzhere
12-17-2005, 09:38 PM
Im proud to have a shop like this... I actually sold my first E36 BMW a year ago to finance a backpacking trip through Europe.. When I got back in the country, my first priority was to buy another BMW to take to my shop. Ive never felt this comfort level from a mechanic... the owner of the shop answers the phone every time, he knows me by name... and knows my goals, ideas for my car (sometimes he tells me Im nuts for the things I want to do).

He has also seen my little sisters Jetta, and about 10 of my clients/coworkers BMW's....

If his shop stays in business, Ill own BMW's for the rest of my life.

Gayle
12-17-2005, 10:17 PM
Im proud to have a shop like this... I actually sold my first E36 BMW a year ago to finance a backpacking trip through Europe.. When I got back in the country, my first priority was to buy another BMW to take to my shop. Ive never felt this comfort level from a mechanic... the owner of the shop answers the phone every time, he knows me by name... and knows my goals, ideas for my car (sometimes he tells me Im nuts for the things I want to do).

He has also seen my little sisters Jetta, and about 10 of my clients/coworkers BMW's....

If his shop stays in business, Ill own BMW's for the rest of my life.


Where is your shop? Have you posted it in the Recommended Bimmer Repair Facilities?

http://www.bimmer.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=40

hakwuzhere
12-17-2005, 10:57 PM
Where is your shop? Have you posted it in the Recommended Bimmer Repair Facilities?

http://www.bimmer.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=40


Of course I have... Dennis is the man... I live in Arlington VA, and the shop is 25 miles from me, but worth the drive.

http://www.bimmer.info/forum/showthread.php?t=16654

I still plan on checking out the shop thats recommended in Alexandria (about 3 miles away) but nothing is going to make me leave my guy.

Kalevera
12-17-2005, 11:33 PM
you can't be serious...this is from an 01 330i? :( :(

http://www.bimmer.info/~lowell/sludgery/01%20CPO%20330i%2082k%20-%201.jpg
You know the E90 has no dipstick, right? :D

These days, BMW is in the business of selling cars, not building them....sad to say.

best, whit