tip jack, ever seen this one

[shogun]

From a German magazine copied
http://www.gismos-sternenseiten.de/Sternzeit-PDF/Kippwagenheber.pdf

[Alexlind123]

Thats really very strange. I dont read german though, whats going on?

[shogun]

Well, apparently it is not bad. Can be folded and transported in a trunk, installed in a very short time and be turned about 80 degree.
Here are some more pics on their homepage, click on the left Drehbuehne and then Bilder=pics
http://www.car-lifter.de/

[Alexlind123]

It seems to me like it might not be very good for a car to be upside down, or even sideways.

Edit: It looks like it can operate as a normal lift as well. That does look useful!

[zygoteer]

A similar device is sold in England.
When assembled, the design consists of two cradle rings forming about 270 degrees of a circle which are bolted on to the wheel hubs of the car.

It works very well, and a demonstration I saw went from unassembled to upside down car in about 20 minutes.
It was very expensive here though.

PS - it is wise to remember to drain ALL fluids out first !!!

[E34-520iSE]

Some classic car restorers use the rolling rings when rebuilding rusted out Morris Minors etc. Gotta watch out for twisting though!

Cheers,

Shaun

[DanH]

wouldnt trust that with more than a economy car on there.

also a good way to get your valvetrain oiled ;)

[Johntee540]

Shogun...... 2 Questions. 1) How many languages do you speak?!! 2) Where do you find this stuff?!! - JT

[Traian]

What use would it be to have the car tipped over on its side? I can't think of any repairs that will simplify. And for 800E (price of the cheapest one), I'd rather bribe a mechanic into letting me use his lift. No offence :D

[Torque]

Where can I get one. I want it.

[shogun]

@Johntee540
some languages ;) , incl. German, English, Spanish (learned it once but forgot most of it), Japanese, some words Chinese ...

@Traian

What use would it be to have the car tipped over on its side?
Have you ever tried to crawl under the car without enough space, without a creeper, without car jacks and/or ramps?
That thing is foldable and can be fitted in a trunk. It is set up in about 30 minutes. Just think about removing the exhaust and things like that.
I would remove the battery first just to be sure that no liquid is coming out of that.
And they say that the side where the fuel tank lid is should be on the upper side, but that is logical.
http://www2.westfalia.de/medien/scaled_pix/250/180/000/000/000/000/000/345/61.jpg
I like this idea idea too, lifts up to 3 tons. Also good in case of snow and you want to put on the snow chains.
http://www2.westfalia.de/medien/scaled_pix/300/300/000/000/000/000/000/001/20.jpg
http://www2.westfalia.de/shops/autozubehoer/werkzeug/wagenheber/wagenheber/16912-ballonwagenheber_3t.htm

[Johntee540]

shogun - thats amazing 5 languages functioning! Makes me question our american education system and the lack of emphasis on language in this global economy and internet.

On that last jack you posted......... Would you really want to get under that car to work on it? - JT

[Bill R.]

brake fluid, power steering , trans and engine oil.. Differentiall vents would drain too.... I see a number of them used on old car restorations but they usually have the engine and trans already out and just want it turned on its side to clean , sand , paint remove rusty parts etc...





@Johntee540
some languages ;) , incl. German, English, Spanish, Japanese, some words Chinese ...

@Traian

Have you ever tried to crawl under the car without enough space, without a creeper, without car jacks and/or ramps?
That thing is foldable and can be fitted in a trunk. It is set up in about 30 minutes. Just think about removing the exhaust and things like that.
I would remove the battery first just to be sure that no liquid is coming out of that.
And they say that the side where the fuel tank lid is should be on the upper side, but that is logical.
http://www2.westfalia.de/medien/scaled_pix/250/180/000/000/000/000/000/345/61.jpg
I like this idea idea too, lifts up to 3 tons. Also good in case of snow and you want to put on the snow chains.
http://www2.westfalia.de/medien/scaled_pix/300/300/000/000/000/000/000/001/20.jpg
http://www2.westfalia.de/shops/autozubehoer/werkzeug/wagenheber/wagenheber/16912-ballonwagenheber_3t.htm

[Javier]

nor over the edge of the wheels. Wonder what damage may be caused over engine and trany mounts, wheels, and suspension parts.

Javier

[shogun]

We had the same subject already some months ago. Here you can even see a VIDEO how it works.
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=10838&itemType=PRODUCT&path=1%2C2%2C503%2C504&KickerID=142&KICKER

And that ballon airjack is nothing new. Rescue teams use that frequently. Even to lift up heavy trucks.
I bought one from Germany but never used it so far, as I have several jacks, hydraulic , and stands and ramps. But for example to change to snw chains etc. would be easy. Provided that there will be no damage to the chassis.
Maybe someone already has some experience.

[Zeuk in Oz]

Ausgezeichnet !

[Zeuk in Oz]

shogun - thats amazing 5 languages functioning! Makes me question our american education system and the lack of emphasis on language in this global economy and internet.
Yes it is amazing but hardly unusual.

A large proportion of people on this planet for whom English is not their mother tongue, speak at least 2-3 other languages, one of which is usually English, French, Spanish or Chinese (Mandarin or Cantonese). Thus Erich's (Shogun's) achievement, though to be applauded, is not that rare.

It is a peculiarity of native English speaking countries (cultures) that their governments feel no need to teach their children other languages, and usuually don't teach English all that well.

Were you to survey contributors to this forum you would find many more who share Erich's level of language skills.

What is truly amazing is Erich's ability to find all the interesting information that he finds - constantly.

[shogun]

I was raised up in Germany, in German education systems you have to learn at least one foreign language, which is usually English. Options are French and Latin later. If you know the old Roman Latin, it is very easy to learn Spanish and Portuguese. For example with my friends in Brazil I talk in "Portugnol", which is a mixture of Spanish and Portuguese.
Just give it a try. My wife is Japanese. She went to a German crash course in Heidelberg in Germany for 6 weeks. That helped a lot. The Goethe Institute is sponsored by the German government, so the courses are very cheap. They have branches in many countries all over the world.
http://www.goethe.de/
You can switch to English language here.

Anyway, a second language is a must nowadays. My son speaks Japanese, English, German, Spanish, French plus he understands some other languages. He studied in Japan, Hongkong, New York (John Jay College for Criminal Justice) and now lives in London U.K.

[Zeuk in Oz]

I was raised up in Germany, in German education systems you have to learn at least one foreign language, which is usually English. Options are French and Latin later. If you know the old Roman Latin, it is very easy to learn Spanish and Portuguese. For example with my friends in Brazil I talk in "Portugnol", which is a mixture of Spanish and Portuguese.
Just give it a try. My wife is Japanese. She went to a German crash course in Heidelberg in Germany for 6 weeks. That helped a lot. The Goethe Institute is sponsored by the German government, so the courses are very cheap. They have branches in many countries all over the world.
http://www.goethe.de/
You can switch to English language here.

Anyway, a second language is a must nowadays. My son speaks Japanese, English, German, Spanish, French plus he understands some other languages. He studied in Japan, Hongkong, New York (John Jay College for Criminal Justice) and now lives in London U.K.

Sorry Erich, reading my previous post again, I realise that it sounds like I am being less than respectful of your linguistic abilities. This is not the case at all and I must say I am always in awe at your grasp of the English language.

I was only trying to point out that to people who are multilingual it often is not considered as big a deal as it is in countries where English is the major or only language. This is especially so in the States and Australia, in my experience.

[shogun]

Hi "village idiot"


I understood what you were not less respectfull to me ;) http://tridem.han-solo.net/auto/rofl-1.gif