Removing the Thrust Arm Ball Joint

[Adnan]

Hi,

I'm getting mentally prepared to replace the thrust arms on my E34 535 (parts on their way from, whom else, bma). Two questions come to mind:

First, is the BMW ball joint puller available for rent from any of the major parts places? Has anyone had success using a generic puller?

Secondly, Bentley does not offer a torque spec for the nut on the ball joint for the thrust arm (perhaps I missed it?) but does mention 68 lbs-ft for the ball joint on the control arm. What should one torque to, 68?

Thanks for your input,
Adnan

[Bill R.]

I was going to make a strut arm change page but very few people expressed any interest when i asked about it so it got shelved. At any rate you can remove the bottom bolts that attach to the strut as seen here and then remove the sway bar link on one end. Then remove the tie rod from the steering knuckle with a conventional puller Then remove the bolts that attach the thrust arm to the frame and the lower control arm to the frame. Then you remove the whole thing as a unit as pictured. I was going to show you how to separate the thrust arm ball joint in a vise with a hammer but I thought that a number of you might not have a vice of sufficient size to support it... so I thought about it and decided to come up with an easy field fabricated method that anybody could separate the joints with. By supporting the knuckle on a couple of impact sockets (Improvise here) I supported it solidly so it couldn't deflect or more and then I hit the ball stud one whack, didn't even take a very hard whack and they pop right out when supported as shown..
http://www.bimmernut.com/%7Ebillr/images/Thrustarms/strutboltscopy.jpg
http://www.bimmernut.com/%7Ebillr/images/Thrustarms/lowercontrolarmunbolted%20copy.jpg
http://www.bimmernut.com/%7Ebillr/images/Thrustarms/Thrustarmonsockets1%20copy.jpg
http://www.bimmernut.com/%7Ebillr/images/Thrustarms/socketstaremoval%20copy.jpg

and yes the torque is 68.5

[Mr. BILL]

That's pretty slick Bill R. I have a question though. If I just replace the bushings, couldn't I just take that assembly to a shop and have them pressed out, without removing the ball joints?

[Bill R.]

mileage, if you check them after removing the assy. you'll find that both ball joints will have play in them. So for this reason if i were doing my own i would just go ahead and replace both the thrust arm and the control arm if I planned on keeping the car for quite a while yet....Patrick can give you a pretty good price on the thrust arm with the bushings installed, the ones in these pics had 90k something miles on it and the boots were torn and the joints were loose , so at you're mileage i would probably just replace the assy. unless the ball joints felt nice and tight which is unlikely.

[shogun]

The pics from Bill R. are here again
7703
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[shogun]

More pics when we did it on an E32 Alpina B12 750iL, we used my pit for that, but not necessary
The tools http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DImfKVdIBIk/UC9d3TyC1GI/AAAAAAAAAFQ/BMEnC2odhuE/s1600/P1160563.jpg
grind this one smaller http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vmttQobg8vQ/UC9d5xODJpI/AAAAAAAAAFY/Ieg1etgBpik/s1600/P1160565.jpg
because it has to go here http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-l_gSUc3p3kw/UC9eSTtQNCI/AAAAAAAAAFg/LVi50Rr4174/s1600/P1160564.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tVVPAIkbo2U/UC9eU7Dh5hI/AAAAAAAAAFo/LztExkGZoVc/s1600/P1160566.jpg
the old worn Meyle bush http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mX651eplOZg/UC9eaFPQhdI/AAAAAAAAAFw/NZ3Mhgc0gzs/s1600/P1160567.jpg
removal of the ball joint as Bill R. recommended with a hammer http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fD77Odbp4Io/UC9eczkcizI/AAAAAAAAAF4/D6Pz9dK4HQ8/s1600/P1160569.jpg
pickle fork and ball joint tool http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JPMXXqMcSjc/UC9ehPis6cI/AAAAAAAAAGA/we9rd4psS8M/s1600/P1160570.jpg
lower arm bush http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-g85EVfRHfSE/UC9ho8MH57I/AAAAAAAAAGQ/h2KEHfE5EAE/s1600/P1160571.jpg
see the damage http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EbtUEwEV-0g/UC9hq70scwI/AAAAAAAAAGY/YkG3014zM0A/s1600/1.jpg

[shogun]

tightening torques front axle http://www.e32-schrauber.de/bmw/s-vorderachse.htm
tightening torques rear axle http://www.e32-schrauber.de/bmw/s-hinterachse.htm