Boge w/ Vogtland

[Traian]

Is anyone currently running Boge shocks with Vogtland springs? Not the Turbo Gas (ie Sachs) but the OE Boges. I was planning to get the Sachs kit, but I figured I might spring for the Boge with Vogtland to save a little money, also because they come with the lifetime warranty. I know there is a little write-up at bmw4life.com, but if someone has more in-depth info I would reeeaaaaalllly appreciate it!!!!

[Dan-ny-m398]

They will bottom out every pothole U hit , I had regular bilsteins (brand new) and they didn't last more than a few months using Vogtland springs also do I need to mention that the car felt like crap.

[Denasti]

I had the same idea to save a few bucks and went with the Bilstein touring, they bottom out every pothole. I would recomend going with the sports for ride and the travel height. Good Luck! The springs are nice and look great.

[Traian]

Ah that's good to know! Interesting advice, thanks.

[pmlmotorsports]

I've been running stock Boge's on Vogtland springs for several years AND NEVER HAD A PROBLEM. While it may be true that Bilsteins are a firmer shock/strut, I myself don't like the ride, and THE WARRANTY offered by Bilstein. As for the Bilstein Tourings, they are absolutely nothing like Bilsteins HD or Sports, but more like a Monroe matic. These people who claim to "bottom out" by using stock Boges must understand that anytime you remove 60% of suspension travel, you will induce problems elsewhere, but I drive the FDR Drive daily and have never bottomed out once, not ONCE. That being said, ANY shock will bottom out when you hit a pothole. It's a matter of having the weight of the entire car forced on one individual component instead of being equally distributed amongst all four dampeners. Hell, even the Sachs kit comes with slightly modified Turbo Gas dampeners. Choose what you wish, but I will never suggest a Bilstein product for any of my customers. HTH.

Peter


Is anyone currently running Boge shocks with Vogtland springs? Not the Turbo Gas (ie Sachs) but the OE Boges. I was planning to get the Sachs kit, but I figured I might spring for the Boge with Vogtland to save a little money, also because they come with the lifetime warranty. I know there is a little write-up at bmw4life.com, but if someone has more in-depth info I would reeeaaaaalllly appreciate it!!!!

[Erwin8r]

They will bottom out every pothole U hit , I had regular bilsteins (brand new) and they didn't last more than a few months using Vogtland springs also do I need to mention that the car felt like crap.
I don't think it's due to the length--it might be due to the bump stops on top. I understand that the 3mm M5 bump stops will alleviate some of this...

[Scott H]

I think you mean the 3mm upper spring pad that you can swap for the 9mm spring pads that are stock on all the cars, including M5.

You need to chop about 1.5" off the stock bump stops to avoid bottoming out on the stock bump stop.



I don't think it's due to the length--it might be due to the bump stops on top. I understand that the 3mm M5 bump stops will alleviate some of this...

[632 Regal]

Its fun pulling the struts in and out, did that 3 times, then went to the sport billies and then again to cut the internal bumpstops.
I think you mean the 3mm upper spring pad that you can swap for the 9mm spring pads that are stock on all the cars, including M5.

You need to chop about 1.5" off the stock bump stops to avoid bottoming out on the stock bump stop.

[hakwuzhere]

Jeff, you had to cut the bumpstops on the Billie Sports? Im about to drop these in my car with Vogtlands and I didnt think I would have to cut the bumpstops.

How much did you cut off?

[Erwin8r]

I think you mean the 3mm upper spring pad that you can swap for the 9mm spring pads that are stock on all the cars, including M5.

You need to chop about 1.5" off the stock bump stops to avoid bottoming out on the stock bump stop.Yup. I stand corrected (darn, I hate to be wrong! :D )

[Qube]

I took off about 1.5" when I got the Vogtland's installed.

[632 Regal]

chopped it at the notch:
http://www.bimmer.info/~regal632/Bumpstops.htm


Jeff, you had to cut the bumpstops on the Billie Sports? Im about to drop these in my car with Vogtlands and I didnt think I would have to cut the bumpstops.

How much did you cut off?

[Anton CH.]

Get Koni, they are awesome. Liftime warranty. They use external bumpstops, I just cut mine in half.

[hakwuzhere]

Too late, and 22mm Konis are nationally backordered right now :(

Wanted Koni, but they werent around when I needed em.