Is this mod possible?

[genphreak]

Hey all,

I know some might think me crazy, but I like dials :)

Is it possible to swap the climate control cluster from the roller type (first pic) to the dial type?

I just get the feeling that those levers on the dial one will mean different connections at the rear of the panel.

Many thanks for any wisdoms contributed... :) Nick

[Espen]

Wouldn`t the dials be to large to fit in there? You would have to relocate the buttons under the rollers to make room for the dials.

For the electrical function I must say pass. The dials are a dynamic resistance as far as i know, the rollers i have no clue.

[shogun]

I doubt it. Roller type has at the back side a blue plug around the area where the rear window heater switch is, and a 3-pin plug there, 2 pins plug for the fan behind the controller, and another 3pin plug, of which only 2 pins are actually installed. That is out of an E32 750iL from Sept. 27, 1988, Behr part number is 94.203.44.002 IHKA LL 1390 627, E32/6411.
Just happens that I have 2 in front of me.

[genphreak]

Wouldn`t the dials be to large to fit in there? You would have to relocate the buttons under the rollers to make room for the dials.

For the electrical function I must say pass. The dials are a dynamic resistance as far as i know, the rollers i have no clue.Sorry the pics are deceptive but both panels are the same physical size- exactly. The problem can only be connecting them...

[genphreak]

I doubt it. Roller type has at the back side a blue plug around the area where the rear window heater switch is, and a 3-pin plug there, 2 pins plug for the fan behind the controller, and another 3pin plug, of which only 2 pins are actually installed. That is out of an E32 750iL from Sept. 27, 1988, Behr part number is 94.203.44.002 IHKA LL 1390 627, E32/6411.
Just happens that I have 2 in front of me.Thanks! I take it both yours are e32 roller type panels? You don't have a dial one to compare right?

If only I could see the back of a dial one... Nick

[shogun]

No problem. Just went down and pulled one out for a pic
http://hometown.aol.de/Imamark/Dsc00091.jpg

[shogun]

and here more from webarchive from max Fretters old page.
Better download them before they disappear forever
http://web.archive.org/web/20020609121019/maxf.freeyellow.com/ac_cont/

[shogun]

http://www.emip.de/up/Klima-LED-Wechsel-02.jpg
http://www.emip.de/up/Klima-LED-Wechsel-03.jpg
http://www.emip.de/up/Klima-LED-Wechsel-04.jpg
http://www.emip.de/up/Klima-LED-Wechsel-05.jpg
http://www.emip.de/up/Klima-LED-Wechsel-06.jpg
http://www.emip.de/up/Klima-LED-Wechsel-07.jpg
http://www.emip.de/up/Klima-LED-Wechsel-08.jpg


That is the procedure how to change the bulbs

[genphreak]

and here more from webarchive from max Fretters old page.
Better download them before they disappear forever
http://web.archive.org/web/20020609121019/maxf.freeyellow.com/ac_cont/Hey thanks a heap, that's the stuff... why on earth BMW didn't use more LEDs in their dashboards I don't know- seems silly to use them some places and not others (of course I don't mean for hi-output situations as ultra brights are only new), but there are so many nasty little bulbs around that could have been LEDs. VW were very good at changing over pronto when they could. Still, therein lies a little encouragement (thanks Erich) to pull mine and give it a good clean and also replace some bulbs with RED ultra brights... :) Nick

[genphreak]

http://www.emip.de/up/Klima-LED-Wechsel-02.jpg
http://www.emip.de/up/Klima-LED-Wechsel-03.jpg
http://www.emip.de/up/Klima-LED-Wechsel-04.jpg
http://www.emip.de/up/Klima-LED-Wechsel-05.jpg
http://www.emip.de/up/Klima-LED-Wechsel-06.jpg
http://www.emip.de/up/Klima-LED-Wechsel-07.jpg
http://www.emip.de/up/Klima-LED-Wechsel-08.jpg

That is the procedure how to change the bulbsHmmm so one has to change mini bulbs in the switches for tha backlighting. That explains it.... what a job! :) Worth doing but also worth being careful! It's no good if the bulbs blow.

Wow- imagine how much the stealer would charge to change a bulb in there... :) (I'd guess new panel price, plus 60 mins R&R?).. :D Nick

[shogun]

if you are still interested, here more picks from front and back side
http://bmwe32.masscom.net/johan//IHKA_lights/IHKA_lights.html

[genphreak]

if you are still interested, here more picks from front and back side
http://bmwe32.masscom.net/johan//IHKA_lights/IHKA_lights.htmlThank you. I love Sean's web-based documentation :)

That's it. Off I go to buy some clear ultra brites for the temp scales and a red one for the fan wheel, and a set of those dinky cluster caps whilst I'm at it... :) Nick