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Jon K
08-16-2006, 12:04 PM
Autohaus offers ElringKlinger set for up to 8/92 (non vanos) in 7mm for $11 ea (2 per car) or ElringKlinger/Victor Reinz in singles and not as a "kit" (the pic looks like its lacking something?) for $0.50 ea in 7mm... so, do I get the ElringKlinger set for $22 or the single pieces from Elring/Victor Reinz?


Also - for the crankshaft oil seal (rear) do I use the original with tension spring or updated version without? One is like $6 the other is $20 (without is more expensive)

GoldenOne
08-16-2006, 12:15 PM
Autohaus offers ElringKlinger set for up to 8/92 (non vanos) in 7mm for $11 ea (2 per car)

i got those from autohaus when we did head work on my buddys nonvanos m50...

Jon K
08-16-2006, 01:37 PM
They seal great after the fact?

GoldenOne
08-16-2006, 01:48 PM
yeah, didnt have any issues with them...

Dave M
08-16-2006, 01:55 PM
Used the Victor Reinz during my recent engine rebuilid and have had no issues. I wasn't aware the rear main seal came without the 'spring'. I chewed mine on instal and now suffer a very minor minor M1 leak. OOops, It'll get remedied when the clutch gets done years from now ;)

Dave m

Jon K
08-16-2006, 02:02 PM
Dave did you buy individual seals then?

Dave M
08-16-2006, 03:58 PM
Dave did you buy individual seals then?

Nope. They were part of a head gasket kit (BMA). Not sure what they'd cost alone, but given the amount of stuff you get in the kit, they were likey quite cheap.

Are you doing the seals yourself or having a machine shop di it?

Dave M

winfred
08-16-2006, 05:46 PM
they come in a headset, i like the goetze brand set, i like the orignal type seal with the spring

Jon K
08-16-2006, 08:04 PM
yeah I wont be buying a headgasket set because I am going to be using MLS

winfred
08-16-2006, 08:32 PM
but all of the other stuff is handy for sealing up all of the other crap, getting a headset is usually cheeper then if you need to get more then about half of the crap that comes with the set, intake/exhaust gaskets, front upper timing cover gasket, valve cover gasket, various o-rings and washer seals, valve stem seals, heater pipe gasket.........ect


yeah I wont be buying a headgasket set because I am going to be using MLS

Jon K
08-16-2006, 08:41 PM
Winfred I priced it out, with the pieces I need its ~$420 total with individual parts, but with the gasket "set" its over $500 so I dunno

winfred
08-16-2006, 10:32 PM
good god who's ****ing you on the gaskets 11 12 1 730 253, Cylinder Head Gasket Set is $415 at the dealer i sell em for $295, somebody has gotta be close to that


Winfred I priced it out, with the pieces I need its ~$420 total with individual parts, but with the gasket "set" its over $500 so I dunno

Jon K
08-16-2006, 11:05 PM
no no no winfred... I have a HUGE list of parts via Autohaus AZ. I priced the "pieces I need" such as valve cover gaskets, grommets, etc., seperately (ie. not a headgasket set) without the headgasket - the cost of the headgasket does not justify buying the set since i won't be using stock gasket.

BillionPa
08-17-2006, 02:32 AM
i like the goatse brand set

O_O

well that explains things doesnt it!

winfred
08-17-2006, 08:14 AM
goetze, correct spelling a brand of federal mogul (http://www.federalmogul.com/aftermarket/region6_de/goetze.html?Country=Germany)


O_O

well that explains things doesnt it!