I got scammed, anyone from MD?

[brosher]

Some of you may have spotted this thread:
http://www.bimmer.info/forum/showthread.php?t=24592

This guy stole money from myself and several other members. He also had the thread on the other major bimmer forums. I have the following info about his possible addresses:

DONALD H VINCENT (Age: 35)
322 WENDE WA
GLEN BURNIE, MD 21061
This house is listed for sale: http://www.realtor.com/FindHome/HomeListing.asp?snum=18&mlsttl=&frm=bymap&pgnum=2&mls=xmls&js=on&target=&ct=Glen+Burnie&st=MD&sbint=&sbls=&sblo=&stype=&areaid=12061&mnsqft=&fid=so&vtsort=&mnprice=300000&mxprice=325000&mnbed=0&mnbath=0&typ=1&poe=realtor&x=11&y=10&sid=073E07EB4DC1C&snumxlid=1064063100&lnksrc=00002

DONALD H VINCENT (Age: 35)
PATRICIA H VINCENT (Age: 58)
AMBER K VINCENT (Age: 31)
8018 CUBA DR
PASADENA, MD 21122

DONALD H VINCENT (Age: 35)
8108 FOREST GLEN DR
PASADENA, MD 21122

[horseheadnebula]

Some of you may have spotted this thread:
http://www.bimmer.info/forum/showthread.php?t=24592

This guy stole money from myself and several other members. He also had the thread on the other major bimmer forums. I have the following info about his possible addresses:

DONALD H VINCENT (Age: 35)
322 WENDE WA
GLEN BURNIE, MD 21061
This house is listed for sale: http://www.realtor.com/FindHome/HomeListing.asp?snum=18&mlsttl=&frm=bymap&pgnum=2&mls=xmls&js=on&target=&ct=Glen+Burnie&st=MD&sbint=&sbls=&sblo=&stype=&areaid=12061&mnsqft=&fid=so&vtsort=&mnprice=300000&mxprice=325000&mnbed=0&mnbath=0&typ=1&poe=realtor&x=11&y=10&sid=073E07EB4DC1C&snumxlid=1064063100&lnksrc=00002

DONALD H VINCENT (Age: 35)
PATRICIA H VINCENT (Age: 58)
AMBER K VINCENT (Age: 31)
8018 CUBA DR
PASADENA, MD 21122

DONALD H VINCENT (Age: 35)
8108 FOREST GLEN DR
PASADENA, MD 21122

Call the DA in his area. They'll get your money back for you, and pay him a visit the same day most likely.

[632 Regal]

Gage308@yahoo.com

[632 Regal]

I'd go with this one, living with mommy at 35? Sleeps in the basement and smokes crack is my guess.

DONALD H VINCENT (Age: 35)
PATRICIA H VINCENT (Age: 58)
AMBER K VINCENT (Age: 31)
8018 CUBA DR
PASADENA, MD 21122

his profile says Annapolis, which consists of these zip codes:
http://annapolis.areaconnect.com/zip2.htm?city=Annapolis&qs=MD&searchtype=bycity

[brosher]

Call the DA in his area. They'll get your money back for you, and pay him a visit the same day most likely.

How do I go about this? He has Glen Burnie, MD on his forum profiles including this one:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/community/profile.cfm?section=profile&forum=1&memid=204824

That house is listed for sale. Maybe someone can have an agent let them in. Only prob is there is no date associated with the addresses, they just come off the credit report.

[horseheadnebula]

How do I go about this? He has Glen Burnie, MD on his forum profiles including this one:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/community/profile.cfm?section=profile&forum=1&memid=204824

That house is listed for sale. Maybe someone can have an agent let them in. Only prob is there is no date associated with the addresses, they just come off the credit report.

Well, how did you send the money?

[brosher]

Paypal. I have been waiting to see if i got anything back from my claim but no luck as it just went through today and they recovered no money.

[horseheadnebula]

Paypal. I have been waiting to see if i got anything back from my claim but no luck as it just went through today and they recovered no money.

Credit card, bank account or PayPal balance?

[ILoveMPower]

Call the po'po' on his azz.

[brosher]

It came off my visa debit card.

[horseheadnebula]

It came off my visa debit card.

Easy. Call VISA, and explain what happened. Have them dispute/charge back. If they won't do it, speak to the bank where the funds were originally deposited.

[632 Regal]

debit cards are not the same as a credit card, there is no recourse because simply "you authorized the transfer" Never ever use Debit cards. Sometimes if you get a real understanding person they will reverse the charges but it's very rare.

Easy. Call VISA, and explain what happened. Have them dispute/charge back. If they won't do it, speak to the bank where the funds were originally deposited.

[Evan]

the seller has ten days to respond to your claim.

the paypal dispute process works.

[brosher]

Yeh I know, I have had good results going through paypal but not this time. I already waited the 10 days and paypal isn't going to get me any money. I like how the case is now "closed" and has been "resolved".


After careful review, we have concluded our investigation of the Buyer
Complaint described below.

We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any funds
from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery
of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.

Please know that we will make our best effort to recover the funds in
question if they become available in the seller's account in the future and
will take appropriate action against the seller. Such action may include
issuing a warning, a temporary restriction, or terminating the account.
Keep in mind that PayPal uses a number of factors to determine when to take
action, including member complaints. Due to privacy laws, we cannot discuss
the details of any action taken. We hope you understand our policy and that
it assures you that you are safe using PayPal.

[brosher]

I just got this e-mail after no contact from him since Aug 29th. I did send him some mildy harassing e-mails which apparently set him off a bit. It seems to confirm my suspicion that he was not intentionally trying to scam people but my money is aparently gone.


Hello Brian-
I Have received all of yoru Emails Including The
really strange ones. I Told you that Once I got to the
bottom of all of this I would make sure you got the
bumper Or Refund your Money.Now I Just Got out of town
and I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do, BUT
I Have saved all of yoru emails as well and Will be
forwarding Them To Paypal if you continue to be a
problem. If I Receive ONE MORE It Will Really Be a
problem. Now I TOLD You I Would Make sure you were
taken care of and I intend to do so. If you cannot
understand That Sometimes Things Go wrong, Then I Feel
Very sorry for you. Just as soon as I am able I Will
refund your Money. Im not even going to waste my time
telling you what happend to the bumper, But Its no
problem I'm sure I'll have another buyer for it...as
soon as I am able I will refund your Payment. Its all
documented You arent going to be ripped off...I Feel
like I should still tell you one more time to get it
thru to you. My suggestion to you is...Dont be an
******* about it(like emailing me 1000 times) and I'll
Make all efforts to get your Money back to you
quickly. Oh and For your own Benefit, Dont try
Harrassing me ...Seriously dude....You'll get your
money faster If I'm Not Hating you all the while.
You're choice though.
D

[632 Regal]

We hope you understand our policy and that
it assures you that you are safe using PayPal

I bought a transmission from a guy that blatently ripped me off for 3500.00, he happened to be a Mod on the board in question and his policy was to ban the entire range of my Ip's, couldnt warn anyone on that board. Nice practice especially since he was moniterily well off.

This really reminds me of Jim Howe the trans guy:

I just got this e-mail after no contact from him since Aug 29th. I did send him some mildy harassing e-mails which apparently set him off a bit. It seems to confirm my suspicion that he was not intentionally trying to scam people but a flake who probably blew my $225 on internet porn.

[Airborne001]

I'm so glad I read these every day...... as I just happen to have his (cell/work?) phone number.

(443)848-9257

I offered to go down and take a bunch of parts off for him, take time off to do so, then he tells me that day and says he sold the entire car, but was still offering parts from it. I thought at the time that he was just a flake, but now I guess I see the scam.

I would call him personally, and tell him that either he fixes it during the course of one phone call, or you call the police and have him charged with wire fraud, and theft. The reason Paypal can not recover the funds is probably that he doesn't have any money in the account.


If you need any more info, I live about 30 mins from him, be glad to make some calls.

Anyone know the name of his realtor?

[Qube]

First thing to do.. get all your evidence including emails, then file a police report. They don't actually have to investigate. Call Visa and tell them to file a debit reversal. Yes. It's possible. Tell them you have a police report if there are issues. Next, CANCEL or CHANGE your Visa on file because your PayPal balance will go negative, and PayPal will just go on it's merry way and take money from your linked bank or credit/debit card account.

Enjoy your money back.

[angrypancake]

uhhhh wtf does he have a caps-lock turret's syndrome? reading that is a pain in the ass, and sounds so shady. funny thing for him to be calling you (brosher) an *******.

[SharkmanBMW]

uhhhh wtf does he have a caps-lock turret's syndrome? reading that is a pain in the ass, and sounds so shady. funny thing for him to be calling you (brosher) an *******.

A big ditto over here...

talk about ******* of the month award nominee!

[Johntee540]

These are all Anne Arundel County Maryland Addresses. I am sure the county police will take your complaint. They can swear out the arrest warrant but I will not count on getting any $$ back.

I am dealing with the same thing in Queen Anne's County MD now with a guy who worked on my boat. - JT

[Evan]

give me his address and phone number.. i live 20 mins from him in downtown Baltimore

[brosher]

Forgot to keep the thread updated, shortly after the first e-mail I got this lovely note. It took me 3 times through but I think I've decoded it. I asked him for a timeframe for a refund.


Brian-
I Understand Your being upset and Looking for other
avenues to Get me back or whatever. seriously...I
Understand How you Must feel and I would likely Feel
the same. But Hopefully We can straighten this out
before a Misunderstanding can Lead to More un needed
misunderstandings if you Know what I mean. The Bitch
of all of this Is The mistake I made By trying to save
a few Dollars By letting my Friend Ship the stuff from
work was a FATAL FATAL Error. and it wasnt just to
save money...I was so busy at work I really couldnt
make time to get the stuff shipped... I Had the front
passenger Fender Go to Montreal, which actually just
went to a delivery company this side of the Border and
they dealt with customs...Well the STUPID DICK Friend
Of mine sent the God damned Bumper THERE TOO. So It
actually went thru customs along with the Fender. SO.
...and what was Horrid about all of this is He didnt
give me any tracking info...The only way I know people
got their stuff was when they emailed me to say they
got it...or in your case ..>DIDNT get it and He wasnt
"technically" allowed to ship the stuff from his work
Like he said it was no problem and when I was
stressing about the tracking info about a week and a
half ago he was telling me He could lose his job if he
tried to Retrieve it. (just a side Note a serious
Bloody asskicking Isnt Ruled Out on him yet)...Im
Hoping he'll help me Pay for this...Oh...and You arent
the only one,....a Guy up in PA. didnt get his oil pan
and he is about to Blow a Gasket now....I was hoping
to locate these Things and get them to you guys as
quick as I can...as It takes ME a long time to make
$200 too. and I had a LOT of things I had to pay for
That I wont even get into and BORE You with right
now....But Seriously dude...I'm sorry about all of
this and I never meant to Upset you or make you feel
like you were getting scammed...I was actually Pretty
upset about all this crap and I know you were pissed
due to the lack of communication and It was because I
DIDNT KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU to be honest...I didnt
have the Cash to ship you right away or You would have
it by now. I'm hoping you take my honestly here to
some kind of heart and as far as getting you the money
Unless I get some from another source Sooner. I will
be able to give you half of whats due to you Next
thursday 22nd...Then the rest the following week...Now
these are teh dates I know I'll have it...I COULD Get
it sooner if I get a side job or sell some other
parts.. So...So...Im going to be Putting other things
off by Getting you the money as it is...as in the
previous Email I Said I Had the bumper back...well I
Dont...Its still MINE But Its in ****ing Canada...and
its going to cost more than half Its worth to even get
it back now....Oh..and By the way I didnt find this
out for sure until yesterday when I got an email from
the guy or I Guess I'd never Find out where it was.
So Once again...Sorry ...and about how long it
will take to get you the money Im really sorry
too.But its as fast as I can.Oh I Know this has
nothing to do with you But I also am going to have to
pay that Guy in PA Back for his Oil pan before a
****ing SWAT TEAM Kicks in my door and .But Please
Remember when its all over..you WILL have your money
back...and I'll Essentially be screwed in this whole
deal....I'll be in touch if you need me dude.
D

[brosher]

Wait till the grammar police get ahold of that one!

Some good news to report though. The bumper I bought off ebay was waiting for me when I got home. I almost cried!:p So I can finally get my car to the body shop. I get a free rental while it is there, hopefully my buddy at enterprise can get me something better than a cobalt.

[angrypancake]

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/6772/grammarnatzeefi8.jpg

[Alexlind123]

I sent a $30 money order to

Donald Vincent
112 4th avenue S.W.
Glen Burnie MD 21061

for a passenger side seat switch. He confirmed reciept of the money orde ron August 16. I still dont have my switch.

[Airborne001]

I sent a $30 money order to

Donald Vincent
112 4th avenue S.W.
Glen Burnie MD 21061

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me you bought the M.O. at the Post Office. If you did you can file a crimnal complaint with the Postmaster, and it gets investigated as Wire Fraud by the FEDS.


GOD I hate these Mthr Fckrs that rip people off, let me know if I can do anything to help.

[ThoreauHD]

Wire fraud is still 10K per with Federal pound me in the ass prison time. This guy will still have no money and free rent, but his choice in women with vagina's will be severely restricted. The maryland D.A. will look at it seriously if it's over $1500 aggregate/total for wirefraud.

Sorry about that airborne. I live in North Bethesda myself. The D.A. and police will be happy to help you, especially since he dabbles in real estate in their back yard.

[zman-95-540i]

Don't let up on this dude. I would go to the authorities immediately. He's trying pathetic delay tactics.

[wjbell]

I agree. I've been on the net a while and have read stories about scams small and large. That last email saying stuff like 'I know it's my fault', 'I got scammed by my freind and that's why you got scammed', 'I want to pay you back but I'm poor too' and 'here's a payment schedule to pay you back' is textbook delay tactics. I bet you that first payment never comes. Then when you call (if he hasn't changed his number) you get more excuses and delays.

I could be wrong but this just sounds soo familiar.

Is there any way to find out how many other people bought parts from him but didn't get anything? If you found out what he's telling other people and the stories don't mesh then it might be time to go to the cops.

[Ross]

Why doesn't someone just take this fukstik out in the alley? Sounds a few of you are local. When reason and law fail violence is a crude but effective means.

[Alexlind123]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me you bought the M.O. at the Post Office. If you did you can file a crimnal complaint with the Postmaster, and it gets investigated as Wire Fraud by the FEDS.


GOD I hate these Mthr Fckrs that rip people off, let me know if I can do anything to help.

No, it was western union.

[takumidrift30]

Sent him $120.00 for small parts through paypal..good thing I did that because originally I was to pay him M.O. Underneath is his email to me after receiving the payment, prior to this as we are closing on the deal after continous back and forth email he just stopped replying to my emails when he replied he told me that a guy actually paid for the whole car. But when he deposited the check it wa on hold becuase of the guy's wife putting on hold w/o letting the husband know about it.
We are actually using my shipping account ot ship the parts, offered call tags as he said he doesn't have the time to ship them, I actually intended to send somebosy to go to his place and pack the parts up for him and ship so basically he has noothing to do anymore but obviously it's what happened.He has different sets of stories ready I guess. Took my case with paypal and a friend of mine who knows some FEDs near his area and is helping me out, things happen you know and we all are educated, level headed people here and would understand the situation if he could been honest. One thing I hate are dis honest people.


No prob dude-
I WILL Keep you Tracked...But Please Just have a bit
of patience with me guy/...ALL ARMAGEDDON HELLFIRE
Broke loose at work and We all have to work Mandatory
OverTIME....Im Still Taking parts to work...weighing
them,,,Fully packing...even SKIDDING Some of
them,...12 Hours a day from Today Til NEXT FRIDAY...NO
WARNING...They just did this crap andf Im pissed..and
I have an OSHA REP on standby looking into seeing how
legal this all is(mandatory OVERTIME)....But Dont
worry...I wont forget,,,,and I will take good
care in wrapping.
Take it easyu
Donnie V

[632 Regal]

did you go to the western union place where you got it? What did they say?
No, it was western union.

[CarloE34]

Wow guys,

I am stunned.In your country it is the same **** as here in Europe.
We have some people from Nigeria.They buy stuff and when they pay they ask all numbers of the bank,your name etc.After that they don't pay but steal all the money from your account.

Kill em all and let god sort them out.

[Alexlind123]

did you go to the western union place where you got it? What did they say?

My dad called western union, but that section of their customer service wasnt open.

[kyleN20]

can you put a lien on his house?

[angrypancake]

Kill em all and let god sort them out.

+1 bwahahaha.
man, we need some cooler smiley faces. that comment deserves the :rockout

[tdgard]

can you put a lien on his house?

THAT is a process not worth a couple hundred bucks in my mind. I think that the e-mail evidence with the few people on this list & maybe others on the flea should be plenty for the authoritI (said like Cartman) to find this joker.

I have this sneaky suspicion that you are dealing with a Donnie Jr. I can not imagine any 35 year old man typing in such a fashion--especially when he is trying to plead a case & make you give him a break. Worst case is he's underage and they just slap his wrists.

The blatant lies would certainly make up my mind. Retribution is normally a part of a sentence--if it gets that far. I was pleasantly surprised when I got several hundred dollars for damages caused when my car was stolen several years after the fact.

Worst part about this is I can't trust you f*ckers in this close community anymore.:D

[Montreal525]

Forgot to keep the thread updated, shortly after the first e-mail I got this lovely note. It took me 3 times through but I think I've decoded it. I asked him for a timeframe for a refund.
Quote:
Brian-
I Understand Your being upset and Looking for other
avenues to Get me back or whatever. seriously...I
Understand How you Must feel and I would likely Feel
the same. But Hopefully We can straighten this out
before a Misunderstanding can Lead to More un needed
misunderstandings if you Know what I mean. The Bitch
of all of this Is The mistake I made By trying to save
a few Dollars By letting my Friend Ship the stuff from
work was a FATAL FATAL Error. and it wasnt just to
save money...I was so busy at work I really couldnt
make time to get the stuff shipped... I Had the front
passenger Fender Go to Montreal, which actually just
went to a delivery company this side of the Border and
they dealt with customs...Well the STUPID DICK Friend
Of mine sent the God damned Bumper THERE TOO. So It
actually went thru customs along with the Fender. SO.
...and what was Horrid about all of this is He didnt
give me any tracking info...The only way I know people
got their stuff was when they emailed me to say they
got it...or in your case ..>DIDNT get it and He wasnt
"technically" allowed to ship the stuff from his work
Like he said it was no problem and when I was
stressing about the tracking info about a week and a
half ago he was telling me He could lose his job if he
tried to Retrieve it. (just a side Note a serious
Bloody asskicking Isnt Ruled Out on him yet)...Im
Hoping he'll help me Pay for this...Oh...and You arent
the only one,....a Guy up in PA. didnt get his oil pan
and he is about to Blow a Gasket now....I was hoping
to locate these Things and get them to you guys as
quick as I can...as It takes ME a long time to make
$200 too. and I had a LOT of things I had to pay for
That I wont even get into and BORE You with right
now....But Seriously dude...I'm sorry about all of
this and I never meant to Upset you or make you feel
like you were getting scammed...I was actually Pretty
upset about all this crap and I know you were pissed
due to the lack of communication and It was because I
DIDNT KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU to be honest...I didnt
have the Cash to ship you right away or You would have
it by now. I'm hoping you take my honestly here to
some kind of heart and as far as getting you the money
Unless I get some from another source Sooner. I will
be able to give you half of whats due to you Next
thursday 22nd...Then the rest the following week...Now
these are teh dates I know I'll have it...I COULD Get
it sooner if I get a side job or sell some other
parts.. So...So...Im going to be Putting other things
off by Getting you the money as it is...as in the
previous Email I Said I Had the bumper back...well I
Dont...Its still MINE But Its in ****ing Canada...and
its going to cost more than half Its worth to even get
it back now....Oh..and By the way I didnt find this
out for sure until yesterday when I got an email from
the guy or I Guess I'd never Find out where it was.
So Once again...Sorry ...and about how long it
will take to get you the money Im really sorry
too.But its as fast as I can.Oh I Know this has
nothing to do with you But I also am going to have to
pay that Guy in PA Back for his Oil pan before a
****ing SWAT TEAM Kicks in my door and .But Please
Remember when its all over..you WILL have your money
back...and I'll Essentially be screwed in this whole
deal....I'll be in touch if you need me dude.
D

Wow, really? I'm the one who got the driver's side fender. I got it no problem. I had it shipped to a shipping/receiving company right over the border and I took it back over the border. That was about 3 weeks ago. I had good contact with him via e-mail.

I hope he's not refering to me about the bumper! I only got the fender and didn't see any bumper there. If it was well packed and not addressed to me, then it's probably still there. If it is, I never saw it. They do not deal with customs there. You come and pick your stuff up and deal with customs yourself. Perhaps you can give them a call to check. The fender arrived in Champlain on August 22 2006 at 10:56. They are really nice and helpful people there. They usually keep the stuff 30 days then return it if unclaimed.

http://www.freeportforwarding.com/index.htm

Hope this helps...

Jeff

[Alexlind123]

Im surprised someone actually got something from him. Someone in MD should go there personally and find out whats up...

[Felixdacat]

Whats the address you need checked out? I'm about 20 min away

[SharkmanBMW]

My dad called western union, but that section of their customer service wasnt open.


Your DAD called for you...?
That's cute!

[Alexlind123]

Your DAD called for you...?
That's cute!

Im 17, age commands respect.

[McWatters]

Im 17, age commands respect.


Amen to that..

cheers

J.McWatters

[ThoreauHD]

This guy must be mentally retarded. 35, living at home, writes like he's in 5th grade. If he is in command of his faculties, he might just need a good wake up call by the feds. They spend most of their time sucking off the entertainment industry. It would be something new for them to actually catch a real thief.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/toasty0z/own3d-retard.jpg

[Alexlind123]

I hope this thread doesnt just die and the guy gets away with this.

[brosher]

I got a PM from someone who claims he received his parts in Canada. Maybe there is some truth to the friend shipping everything to customs. The guys says he will send me payment on the 22nd, not sure if he responded to anyone else? I know it sound like typical delay stuff but I am gonna see if I get any money by then before calling the police.

Has anyone else heard from the seller?

[Montreal525]

I got a PM from someone who claims he received his parts in Canada. Maybe there is some truth to the friend shipping everything to customs. The guys says he will send me payment on the 22nd, not sure if he responded to anyone else? I know it sound like typical delay stuff but I am gonna see if I get any money by then before calling the police.

Has anyone else heard from the seller?

I'm the one who sent you a P.M. read my post, #40.... There's the number of the shipping warehouse I use in Champlain and where he claims the bumper was sent along with the fender. Maybe they can tell you if it's still there...

Let's be clear about this... On my end, NOTHING was shipped to Canada... My fender was shipped in Champlain, in the USA... I took it across the border. The shipping warehouse DOES NOT take stuff across the border. If the bumper was shipped with the fender It could still be there...

Jeff

[Airborne001]

Did anyone try calling him on that number?

[silversleeper]

I am also a local... I would be willing to take a cruise up there and see what the deal is.