540i Tensioner

[zhandax]

I was planning to reseal my intake this weekend, but a buddy mentioned that I may as well replace the valley pan gasket while I am that deep which prompted me to search and I see that Jeff recommends replacing the coolant manifold o-rings, both of which will require draining the coolant. I did not call BMA early enough last Monday, and my hoses, water pump, and radiator will not be here until next Monday so it looks like I can't do the intake reseal this weekend, which leads to my question...

I ordered two new belts and Patrick said both tensioners may be hydraulic but advised me to check. Can I tell if I do with a visual inspection, and if so, is there anything else in the tensioning realm I need to replace while I am replacing the belts? I notice all the posts about mechanical tensioners seem to involve 530i's or the sixes.

[Eric540i]

I can't really answer your question... but 2 weeks ago a bolt securing the belt tensioner (on the alternator's side) snapped, which - in some unknown consequential order - threw the belt, destroyed my water-pump, sheared off some fan-blades which punctured the radiator... which has now drained my wallet.
I guess that the bolt snapping was the consequence of its being overtightened sometime during the car's life. If there's a lesson of sorts in this, it's that the little, overlooked, unsexy things can suddenly fail and wreak havoc.

[yaofeng]

Don't know if the tensioners are hydraulic but if they are the same as my SAAB's they are both mechanical and hydraulic. There is a mechanical spring and hydraulic oil for damping.

You can't buy the valley pan gasket anymore. BMW, in its traditional over engineering manner, replaced the gasket with one baked on the pan so you have to replace the pan.

[Tiger]

It is a mechanical spring tensioner. It is a no brainer. When new belt is installed... crank the tensional all the way to the max... and tighten the bolts up. That's it.

[brosher]

You can't buy the valley pan gasket anymore. BMW, in its traditional over engineering manner, replaced the gasket with one baked on the pan so you have to replace the pan.

Is the pan you are talking about #2 here:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=HE53&mospid=47410&btnr=11_1498&hg=11&fg=40

They don't list a part number for it. Will it need to be replaced and where can I find a pn?

Also, can someone comment on how to remove the coolant tubes?

[zhandax]

At least by waiting to do the job, I can get one from BMA rather than the local dealer who wants $100 for the pan/gasket. Do I need one tensioner or two? I ordered both belts.

[yaofeng]

At least by waiting to do the job, I can get one from BMA rather than the local dealer who wants $100 for the pan/gasket. Do I need one tensioner or two? I ordered both belts.

Please tell me where you can get the valley pan.

[yaofeng]

Is the pan you are talking about #2 here:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=HE53&mospid=47410&btnr=11_1498&hg=11&fg=40

They don't list a part number for it. Will it need to be replaced and where can I find a pn?

Also, can someone comment on how to remove the coolant tubes?

They are item #1 and #2.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=HE53&mospid=47410&btnr=11_1510&hg=11&fg=10

But like I said you can't get the gasket anymore. The new design has the gasket baked on the pan. So you need to get the pan. It is a dealer item. The cost is not too bad, $55? Check the following source.

http://www.bmw-auto-parts-dealer.com/

This is my sole dealer source. Their prices are not too bad. Two things I don't like are:

1) they are located in New Jersey so I pay taxes,
2) they charge shipping. There is no free shipping.

[brosher]

Are you sure you can't get the gasket? I plugged in the PN and they have a price for it on that site. I'll call my stealer and see if they can order it.

[yaofeng]

I bought the pan with the gasket a few months ago after being informed by the dealer the gasket is no longer available. If you can get it, let me know. I'll buy one too. Why would I buy a new pan every time I open it? I think BMW did this to stick to us. It is a rip-off.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/yaofengchen/BMW_95_540/DSC_2818.jpg
BMW has ways of ripping owners off. New pan and old shown side by side. The new one has the rubber gasket baked on it. The old one has a paper gasket. Is the new design better? Just more expensive I think.

[yaofeng]

Also, can someone comment on how to remove the coolant tubes?

Obviously you need to remove the intake manifold before removing the coolant tubes. After the intake manifold is removed, remove the water pump. Each coolant tubes is connected to the water pump and the rear coolant distribution header by an o-ring on each end.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/yaofengchen/BMW_95_540/DSC_2744.jpg
Coolant tubes and the rear coolant header.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/yaofengchen/BMW_95_540/DSC_2728.jpg
Coolant tubes exposed.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/yaofengchen/BMW_95_540/DSC_2726.jpg
Another view.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/yaofengchen/BMW_95_540/DSC_2727.jpg
Yet another.

[brosher]

Thanks yaofeng!! I did call the dealer and they can't order just the gasket. I also called auto-parts-dealer.com and even though it comes up on their website they can't get it. They get the combo for $60 though. Would I be stupid not to replace it while I'm in there?

Sorry to the original poster for the hijack. :)

[632 Regal]

if your there redo it! hate to find out theres yet another leak after doing the intakes.

[yaofeng]

Of course. Pay up. You have gone that far already. I thought about cutting myself a paper gasket. Then I came to my senses.

[brosher]

Credit card... melting... :p

Ordered the aditional stuff. Guess this will be my project next weekend.

[zhandax]

I thought of using Permatex since that is all the new design looks like, but I refuse to use that stuff except for an extreme emergency.