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Car-a-meller
11-12-2006, 08:26 AM
Good day,

I want to install a non-electronic 4HP22 into my Volga (Russian car) :)

Could you please tell me, what cars (body\engine combinations) came with this version of tranny (TV-cable, narrow-placed mounts, round 4-bolt flange).

Maybe you know the 1043-010-XXX numbers of such trannies too?

Here's the photo (taken by Winfred):

http://e-glu.ru/narrow-round.jpg

Thank you in advance!

winfred
11-12-2006, 10:11 AM
i going to need to think about that combo a little, e34 535s have that back end but are the EH versions and need a computer to run them, ill try to remember to look around at work tomorrow and see what has that tail section

Car-a-meller
11-12-2006, 10:31 AM
Thank you very much Winfred!

Of course, it's much easier to install a TV-cable version of 4HP22, because it doesn't need anything but the cable :)

I know for sure, 200%, that there were such tail sections on early 4HP22's, but it's very hard to get more information for me here in Russia...

Thanks again :)

Rus
11-12-2006, 03:59 PM
What kind of engine is going into the Volga? I've seen some pretty radical conversions in the VAZ and GAZ cars. Are you originally russian? Your english is great. Glad to see someone from the motherland on the boards :)

Good luck in your search!

silver-e34
11-12-2006, 04:04 PM
89/90 525i m20 come with that tranny

Car-a-meller
11-13-2006, 06:13 AM
2 Rus: wow! I'm glad too. The engine is 2.3l 16v 130hp. And yes, i'm russian, from Moscow.

2 silver-e34: Really? a non-electronic 4hp22 in 89-90 cars?

DaveVoorhis
11-13-2006, 07:06 AM
Really? a non-electronic 4hp22 in 89-90 cars?
Definitely. I used to have one. With these, there's no E/S/W switch on the console.

Car-a-meller
11-13-2006, 07:20 AM
Definitely. I used to have one. With these, there's no E/S/W switch on the console.


I've heard there were semi-electronic 4HP22's - they had TV cable AND electrical-controlled torque converter clutch...

winfred
11-13-2006, 08:49 AM
never herd of a electric converter on the regular 4hp, they lock up but it's hydraulic at around 54 mph


I've heard there were semi-electronic 4HP22's - they had TV cable AND electrical-controlled torque converter clutch...

Car-a-meller
11-13-2006, 09:16 AM
Hi Winfred!

Are there any news about the tail section?

And I got one more silly question :)

There were 4 types of torque converters:

- 10 inch (255 mm) diameter
- 11 inch (275-280 mm) diameter
- 11.75 inch
- 12.75 inch

The 3rd and 4th came only with 735-745-750 as I know.

The question is: are 10 inch and 11 inch converters physically interchangeable? Do they have the same length (height)?

Thanks!

genphreak
11-13-2006, 09:18 AM
Check out the Wikipedia entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_4HP22_transmission) for fun

Also, www.zf-trading.com (http://www.zf-trading.com) or
here for an exploded view with part numbers (http://www.jpat.co.uk/jpat_pdfs/ZF%20Acrobat%20files/ZF%20%204HP22.pdf)

Nicer exploded views here;
http://www.erikssonindustries.com/ZF_items/4HP24_22/4hp22sch1.htmhttp://www.erikssonindustries.com/ZF_items/4HP24_22/4hp22sch2.htmhttp://www.erikssonindustries.com/ZF_items/4HP24_22/4hp22sch3.htm
Repair Kits Common Use Parts
1.Filter change kit 4HP22FKSP or 4HP22FKDP Filter:
(shallow pan)
(deep pan)
1043 226 036
1043 226 034

2. Overhaul kit Electronic Hydraulic
1043 298 092
1043 298 095
Pan Gasket 1043 301 515

3. Banner kit
Electronic
Hydraulic
1043 298 093
1043 298 096
Stator Support 1043 222 078 or 1043 222 079

4.Master Overhaul kit Electronic Hydraulic

1043 298 094
1043 298 097

Valve body gasket
Valve body gasket
Electronic
1043 326 232 or
1043 328 050

Hydraulic
1043 326 162 or
1043 326 253

1043-010-391
ZF 30
4HP22 cable
1987- current Jaguar XJ6 2.9 liter - 3.6 liter

4HP22
1986-1988 Volvo 740, 750, 940

1990 - 93 ALFA ROMEO model 164
1994 - 95 ALFA ROMEO model 164

Land 2F14A
4HP22 cable
1043-010-699
1043-010-093

4 HP22
ZF16 BMW # 1984 323i - $ 1535.- 1043-010-094
4 HP22 BMW #
320i $ 1535.- 1043-010-097
4 HP22 cable
ZF16
BMW #
24-00-1-468-383 1983 - 1986 733i - 735i - $ 1435.- 1043-010-109
4 HP22 cable
ZF16 BMW # 1984 - 1985 325e $ 1535.- 1043-010-120
4 HP22 cable
ZF16 BMW # 1986 325 $ 1535.- 1043-010-121
4 HP22 cable
ZF 22 BMW # 1985 318i $ 1535.- 1043-010-126
4 HP22 cable
ZF16
BMW #
24-00-1-468-540 1984 - 1985 533i - 633csi $ 1535.- 1043-010-144
4 HP22 cable
ZF16 BMW # 1985 - 1987 528e $ 1535.- 1043-010-186
4 HP22 cable
ZF16
BMW #
24-00-1-468-384 1984 - 1985 635i $ 1535.- 1043-010-187
4 HP22 cable
ZF16
BMW #
24-00-1-468-386 1985 736i - 635csi $ 1535.- 1043-010-210
4 HP22 cable
ZF16 BMW # 1985 524 turbo diesel $ 1535.- 1043-010-212
4 HP22 cable
ZF 22 BMW # 1985 318i $ 1535.- 1043-010-263
4 HP22 cable
ZF 16
BMW #
24-00-1-468-384 1984 - 1985 535i - 633i $ 1435.- 1043-010-270
4 HP22 cable
ZF 16
BMW #
24-00-1-468-386 1985 635csi $ 1435.- 1043-010-275
4 HP22 cable
ZF 16
BMW #
24-00-1-468-220
NEW ZF#1043-010-283 1985 - 1987 325i $ 1435.- 1043-010-277
4 HP22 cable
ZF 16
BMW #
24-00-1-468-387 1986 528e - 733i $ 1435.- 1043-010-283
4 HP22 cable
ZF 16
BMW #
24-00-1-468-220 1987 325e $ 1435.- 1043-010-288
4 HP22 electronic
ZF 26
BMW #
24-00-1-469-772 1986 - 1987 735i - 635csi - 535i $ 1435.- 1043-010-298
4 HP22 cable
ZF 22
BMW #
24-00-1-468-219 9/1984 - on 318i $ 1435.- 1043-010-371 / 654
4 HP22 electronic
ZF 26 BMW # 1988 - 1989 735i - 535ia $ 1435.- 1043-010-496
4 HP22 electronic
ZF 26
BMW #
24-00-1-469-771 1989 635csi $ 1435.- 1043-010-503

4 HP22 cable
ZF 26
BMW #
24-00-1-468-221
24-00-1-216-569 1985 - 1986 325i - 325is $ 1435.- 1043-010-517
24 00 1 468 222
4 HP22 cable
ZF 16
BMW #
24-00-1-468-222 1986 - 1988 325is $ 1435.- 1043-010-519
4 HP22 cable
ZF 16
BMW #
24-00-1-468-388 1986 - 1987 528e $ 1435.- 1043-010-644
4 HP22 electronic
ZF 26 BMW # 1988 - 1989 535i $ 1535.- 1043-010-654 / 371
4 HP22 electronic
ZF 26
BMW #
24-00-1-469-773 1988 - 1990 735i - 735il $ 1435.- 1043-010-666
4 HP22 cable
ZF 26
BMW #
24-00-1-468-642 1988 - 1989 525i $ 1435.- 1043-010-686
4 HP22 electronic
ZF 26
BMW #
24-00-1-469-776

24-00-1-218-170 1990 - 1991 735i - 535i - $ 1435.- 1043-010-689
4 HP22 electronic
ZF 26
BMW #
24-00-1-218-241

24-00-1-469-777 1990 - 1991 735i - 535i $ 1435.- 1043-010-690
4 HP22 cable
ZF 26 BMW # 1986 - 1989 325i - 325is $ 1435.-
Beware the electronic ones... not all these are applicable to you. :) Nick

winfred
11-13-2006, 09:25 AM
haven't ben able to leave the front office yet


Hi Winfred!

Are there any news about the tail section?

And I got one more silly question :)

There were 4 types of torque converters:

- 10 inch (255 mm) diameter
- 11 inch (275-280 mm) diameter
- 11.75 inch
- 12.75 inch

The 3rd and 4th came only with 735-745-750 as I know.

The question is: are 10 inch and 11 inch converters physically interchangeable? Do they have the same length (height)?

Thanks!

silver-e34
11-13-2006, 01:12 PM
yes im 100% sure there is nothing electronic on the 89/90 525i 4hp22 i just replaced mine and had the old one rebuilt.

Car-a-meller
11-13-2006, 04:24 PM
yes im 100% sure there is nothing electronic on the 89/90 525i 4hp22 i just replaced mine and had the old one rebuilt.

Thanks for info!!! Could you please give me the last three digits of its model number? I mean 1043-010-XXX...

Thanks!!!

///M-Power 3\\\
11-13-2006, 05:12 PM
Or most E30's

winfred
11-13-2006, 09:04 PM
most e30s have a flex coupler instead of a u-joint


Or most E30's

winfred
11-13-2006, 09:23 PM
i was tied up all day and didn't get a chance to browse the warehouse, off the top of my head 89-90 525s have that assend, 325Es older then 86 should have that configuration, 85-86 740 non turbo volvos have a u-joint with a slightly smaller bolt circle and a flat 4 bolt crossmember mounting pad that could be easily modified to bolt up to what ever.
not sure about the converter sizes, never really had a screw with them that much


Hi Winfred!

Are there any news about the tail section?

And I got one more silly question :)

There were 4 types of torque converters:

- 10 inch (255 mm) diameter
- 11 inch (275-280 mm) diameter
- 11.75 inch
- 12.75 inch

The 3rd and 4th came only with 735-745-750 as I know.

The question is: are 10 inch and 11 inch converters physically interchangeable? Do they have the same length (height)?

Thanks!