Bavarian Autosport High-Performance Ignition Coils

[Jehu]

Are these worth the $$$$ ? They're ON SALE! $332.95 ON SALE! $332.95 ON SALE! $332.95 ON SALE! $332.95 ON SALE! $332.95 ,lol... On top of some Denso Iridiums? Huh? Huh? Well?

[Jon K]

Gimmick

[Robert K]

Are you having ignition related problems now??? My guess would be that unless you've heavily modded your engine, a hotter spark really won't accomplish anything. As long as their is a spark in the cylinder to ignite the air/fuel mixture, that's all you need. I'd look elsewhere to spend the money.

Grace and peace,

Robert K
1991 535i

[Boone.Msi]

where can i just get some boring oem coils for sale? Seems like i may have a couple shorted... since theyre $60+ a piece i might as well get these

[BillionPa]

the BAV ones come with plug boots too.

[Jehu]

Are you having ignition related problems now??? My guess would be that unless you've heavily modded your engine, a hotter spark really won't accomplish anything. As long as their is a spark in the cylinder to ignite the air/fuel mixture, that's all you need. I'd look elsewhere to spend the money.

Grace and peace,

Robert K
1991 535i

I don't think i am.Car starts right up and ideles smoothly.My curiosity was raised when they said you would feel a difference.I was planning on changing plugs anyway and when i saw these in their Christmas mailer it got me wondnering..

[Qube]

You'd feel better if you spent it on colorful wiring sleeves instead :) Then stick an ///M sticker on each boot.

[BillionPa]

if your coils are still the original ones, then you will feel the difference regardless if you get stock or BAV coils.

HOWEVER... they are much less expensive than the OE coils, and because of the modified output will not last as long.

that being said, i will get them when i get new injectors.

[Jehu]

if your coils are still the original ones, then you will feel the difference regardless if you get stock or BAV coils.

HOWEVER... they are much less expensive than the OE coils, and because of the modified output will not last as long.

that being said, i will get them when i get new injectors.

So the OEM Bosch which i can get for a little over $450 for the 8 would last longer and performance wise not really leave anything on the table when compared to the BAV Performance set costing very nearly as much?Or do the BAV performance coils in fact allow for some added pep?

[BillionPa]

the iridium plugs have a much smaller electrode than a standard plug, this does a couple of things.

allows a minor increase in displacement with a minor decrease in compression.
allows the flame to propogate better because the electrode isnt in the way.
allows the fuel to get to the electrode better because the electrode isnt in the way.
decreases the voltage requirement of the ignition system to generate the same spark power.

the greater efficiency of the small electrode increases power a bit (a percent maybe) while simultaneously decreasing the amount of fuel needed to combust with the air.

you throw in a high power ignition system, and the effects wont be as "intense" as with a stock ignition system, because the ignition efficiency has already been increased a fair amount.

for a stock engine anyway. if you have forced induction, nitrous, or have very cold air intake due to winter conditions, then more ignition energy, combined with a colder plug (if needed) would allow a bit more boost without backfire or knock, or greatly improve startup of a cold engine with freezing air.

i was the only car able to start up no problem in the dead of winter in minnesota on the first try, every time. the optima batt helped tough, heh.

all that said, iridium plugs and high output coils improve fuel efficiency, increase power, make you car start easier, reduce engine temp, blah blah.... but not much, and their relationship isnt as synergistic on a stock engine as with a heavily modified engine.

the amount of time the bosch coils would theoretically outlast the BAV coils by doesnt in my mind justify the extra $130, so the BAV coils are a better buy.

either way, if your coils are 12 years old, all new ones will feel really good.

[ryan roopnarine]

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fcp groton ( i know we don't like their thrust arms here...) will sell 8 bremi (IIRC) coils for 240, shipping included. those things are at least 1 lb each. some people might be spending too much on coils....

[Jehu]

the iridium plugs have a much smaller electrode than a standard plug, this does a couple of things.

allows a minor increase in displacement with a minor decrease in compression.
allows the flame to propagate better because the electrode isn't in the way.
allows the fuel to get to the electrode better because the electrode isn't in the way.
decreases the voltage requirement of the ignition system to generate the same spark power.

the greater efficiency of the small electrode increases power a bit (a percent maybe) while simultaneously decreasing the amount of fuel needed to combust with the air.

you throw in a high power ignition system, and the effects wont be as "intense" as with a stock ignition system, because the ignition efficiency has already been increased a fair amount.

for a stock engine anyway. if you have forced induction, nitrous, or have very cold air intake due to winter conditions, then more ignition energy, combined with a colder plug (if needed) would allow a bit more boost without backfire or knock, or greatly improve startup of a cold engine with freezing air.

i was the only car able to start up no problem in the dead of winter in Minnesota on the first try, every time. the optima batt helped tough, He.

all that said, iridium plugs and high output coils improve fuel efficiency, increase power, make you car start easier, reduce engine temp, blah blah.... but not much, and their relationship isn't as synergistic on a stock engine as with a heavily modified engine.

the amount of time the bosch coils would theoretically outlast the BAV coils by doesnt in my mind justify the extra $130, so the BAV coils are a better buy.

either way, if your coils are 12 years old, all new ones will feel really good.

Wow,thanks. I nominate this for Post of the Month just for its thoroughly concise and articulate composition

[BillionPa]

i would doubt FCPG sells bremi, as the cheapest i can find new bremi coils with boots is about $380.

also their ebay page doesnt even spec a manufacturer, and only says OES supplier, which generally means its NOT the same as the one that was originally installed in the car (OEM), but rather is a compatible model that is NOT aftermarket and carries the same bmw part number.

[ryan roopnarine]

bma has bremi for 48$, and bosch for $57, and fcp groton's retail store has bosch for $48 and bremi for $64. i don't think its inconceivable that for an 8 pack of them (and i know bma/fcp/et al were selling them individually for 35-43 in 2004) that they drop the price down to 35$. i asked fcp who their supplier for a 6 pack in 2004 was and they said bremi, the ebay pic looks like a bremi coil. if you can get them to guarantee a supplier for the ebay pack, might be a good deal.

ps....autohausaz has bremi for $43+$5.88 for boot and bosch (all inclusive) for $45. all prices before shipping, ymmv.

[BillionPa]

a hell of a good deal at that.

the picture is actually of a Bosch ignition coil.

[bigtisas]

Do we need to replace the coils periodically like oxy sensor? every 100k miles?
The reason i ask is because my car never starts right up. When I turn the ignition, it sounds like cha..cha..cha..cha...wroom. I replaced the spark plugs and still the same. New coils?

[BillionPa]

they are basically transformers. they dont last forever. they can be tested like any other transformer with a multimeter, but you need to test both coil windings.

i would suspect something in the fuel system first. try running Techron injector cleaner for 2 or 3 tanks of gas and see if that does anything. also make sure your fuel filters are changed at regular intervals.

most service intervals are when the component is at MINIMUM operating standards or below. performing the service ahead of schedule will add to the maintainence of the car, but it will perform better. like brake fluid flushes and fuel filter replacement every year, rather than every 2 or 30K is just a plain good idea.

also you are in california and i think your gas has been poisoned with ethanol, so thats just to be expected.