160mph+

[Flamin'Cow]

Dear All,

Was on my way into town today (via the motorway) and took this picture.

Damn....imagine if I'd had a blow-out?

...and yes, I did buy some petrol whilst in town, the lowest I've had the gauge to is "---" which is pretty damn low...

Would this be a reasonably accurate reading? I have an M5 3.91 diff which might mean its not....

What have you had outta your beast?

Kind regards

FLAMINCOW

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c392/flamincow/160mph.jpg

[Macv]

You're out of gas..... :)

I've only hit 140 once. Got there pretty quick too. It was fun.

[Alexlind123]

You're out of gas..... :)

I've only hit 140 once. Got there pretty quick too. It was fun.

Yes, but he has enough momentum to coast just about anywhere :D

[Flamin'Cow]

Damn, yeah yeah I know I know - Thank GOD I have only once run outta gas - AND it was in a Mini (so not too bad to push) - I don't fancy pushing the bimmer on my own....

140 is not bad, when I got this car I had a race with my mate (who had taken me to pick it up) - he has a 2006 Subaru Impreza 2.5 Turbo - he thought "yeah I'll kick yo' ass" - unfortunately - his car is limited to 141mph - at 150 - I was pulling away!!! - man was he pissed - especially as his car cost like £30,000 and the Zimmer cost less than a grand!

Most people freak out at more than 130 - thank GOD my missus wasn't in the car with me.....

[Flamin'Cow]

China! - here I come.......... (hear the gas is cheap there) - LOL

[Alexlind123]

/stunned

[stilljester]

So let me understand this at 160+ you biggest concern is taking a picture ( a very clear one at that) of your speedo as proof? I don't even know where to start.....I guess I’m getting old. Be safe out there buddy:)

[Flamin'Cow]

Thanks - I am a bit of a 'Pro' if one may be so bold....

Do a search on 'GOOGLE' for - flamin'cow

and (minus the Zombie things) see what you come up with....

"Drive safely - always carry a shot-gun"

FLAMINCOW

[Flamin'Cow]

Alternatively, see;

http://www.meanstreets.tv/

check out - 'Malcolm Clarke' and 'Rinsing & Burnouts' - some of my work.....

[Ross]

With 3.91 gears and 225/60 x 15"tires I figure 6400rpm ~ 125mph
Having attended (infrequently) public school I stand to be corrected though.
An M30 powered E32 of long ago once attained an indicated 155 mph, and promptly required a reseal job as the crankcase pressure became excessive at the sustained high revs.

[632 Regal]

is this considering overdrive?
With 3.91 gears and 225/60 x 15"tires I figure 6400rpm ~ 125mph
Having attended (infrequently) public school I stand to be corrected though.
An M30 powered E32 of long ago once attained an indicated 155 mph, and promptly required a reseal job as the crankcase pressure became excessive at the sustained high revs.

[kick7ca]

Your an idiot for 3 reasons:
1. for doing it
2. for bragging about it
3. for endangering others on a public road

[Flamin'Cow]

Hmm.... only prob is I'm running 18" rims....

[Ross]

Tried google and came up with a bunch of bands and crap.
Go ahead and brag, I'm curious to know.

[Flamin'Cow]

Thank you - I wondered how long it would be until the 'Moral Patrol' came a knocking....two words - "UP YOURS!"

[Flamin'Cow]

needs to be EXACTLY

flamin'cow (with the ' )

Alternatively see:

http://www.meanstreets.tv/

[Ross]

Found it. Don't ever ask to borrow my car.

[Flamin'Cow]

...with 235/35/18 tyres.....

[Flamin'Cow]

Hmmm, probably a good idea that too.....

[Ross]

Duh. Figured 1:1 top gear.
I'll have to dig around for my old Moroso "power/speed calculator"

[repenttokyo]

Thank you - I wondered how long it would be until the 'Moral Patrol' came a knocking....two words - "UP YOURS!"


you can call it the moral patrol if you want, but I hit a wall at 110 mph in December, and I am lucky to be alive. I can't imagine 160.

I'm also lucky that I didn't kill anyone else.

[Flamin'Cow]

Yes, I agree, someone I know killed his 18 year old passenger yesterday. He's now going down for 10 years 'cos he was pissed at the time.

You guys obviously don't know French Motorways at 7am.......empty.......

If I were to 'hit the scenery' it would only be me who dies - no big loss there....

....except the car....

[Ross]

Assuming .81 top gear and 235/35 x 18 then ~147mph. ??

[Flamin'Cow]

...still not bad - felt like more tho - have been in a Ferrari (owned by my best m8) at 180 mph + (indicated) - and this (160mph + - indicated) felt pretty damn close....

[swenpro]

...still not bad - felt like more tho - have been in a Ferrari (owned by my best m8) at 180 mph + (indicated) - and this (160mph + - indicated) felt pretty damn close....

I guess the problem I have with this is that the car you're driving at gloriously high speeds is 18 years old. At that age, no matter how good you are, you're more likely to have car error than user error.

[Flamin'Cow]

aaahhhh yes, but which is better -

a 'new' car - never serviced and owned by a non-car enthustaist...

or an 'old' car which has a FULL service (OIL, Oil filter, fuel filter, plugs, leads, belts, fluids, gaps) every 3000 miles (sometimes less), runs on (only) 98RON fuel, has the BEST tyres, shocks, bushes etc etc etc etc etc (and brakes)? (EBC disks & pads).....?

You decide....

[Ross]

Could have been more, I rounded some figures.
Any problems afterwards? How long did the engine remain at those revs?

[brick8]

Is it real or have we been fooled by photoshop???


Dear All,

Was on my way into town today (via the motorway) and took this picture.

Damn....imagine if I'd had a blow-out?
Is it real or photoshop???


...and yes, I did buy some petrol whilst in town, the lowest I've had the gauge to is "---" which is pretty damn low...

Would this be a reasonably accurate reading? I have an M5 3.91 diff which might mean its not....

What have you had outta your beast?

Kind regards

FLAMINCOW

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c392/flamincow/160mph.jpg

[632 Regal]

I vote photoshop ;)
Is it real or have we been fooled by photoshop???

[Ross]

Or speedo error. I just can't imagine the old M30 having the suds to propel the car along quite this briskly. Unless those deserted French motorways are downhill.

[Fetch]

First thing I thought was photoshop, I know I've done it to pics of my previous car to fool gullible friends :)

[Flamin'Cow]

No, this is REAL, no problems with the car afterwards either (at least I hope not)... although i guess having the MPG needle 'off the chart' for extended periods of time ain't too good for the motor....

mind you... my 'average' consumption stands at around 20 MPG or 15 L/100kms...

In addition to the old "Moral Patrol" - I was also expecting the 'Photoshop-crew' to arrive on scene pretty quickly....

If you like I can try again 2morrow and get some background (front windshield) scenery in the pic too.....

...anyway, thats what my speedo was reading, and it was DAMN QUICK!

[nizmainiac]

it could be that the rear end of the car was jacked up put on axle stands , the front wheels well and truly chocked put in 5th gear and floored for a bit to gain the 160mph speedo reading

[GoldenOne]

my question is how you got such a clear focused picture going 160+, there must have been significant vibrations from the road

[Flamin'Cow]

Question:

Would YOU jack you car up and risk 6000rmp + just for a picture?

[Flamin'Cow]

What vibrations? - If you have a perfectly smooth road (like we have in France) and a 'DECENT' E34 - there should'nt be any vibrations.......

Guys, look - I really DID take this piccy thismorning - If you think its bollox, then fine, you are entitled to your own opinion, but I KNOW thats what my speedo was reading - so.......kiss my judies....

[andmd]

my question is how you got such a clear focused picture going 160+, there must have been significant vibrations from the road

It looks like he used a flash, and in such a situation he could have shot it with the shutter open only for a short time, maybe something like 1/4,000 of a second, which doesn't give much time for vibrations to blur the image.

[nizmainiac]

yes i have done it before, took the wheels off to be on the safe side, plus the car was in my workshop

[nixter]

Well I've had my M5 to 240 on a very new and very smooth stretch of highway. It's totally possible but the fact that we don't see anything outside is where this falls apart.

Edit: Oh wait, only the diff is from an M5? Now I'm really sceptical.

[brick8]

Did you spill your maquiallato?

4352




What vibrations? - If you have a perfectly smooth road (like we have in France) and a 'DECENT' E34 - there should'nt be any vibrations.......

Guys, look - I really DID take this piccy thismorning - If you think its bollox, then fine, you are entitled to your own opinion, but I KNOW thats what my speedo was reading - so.......kiss my judies....

[grave77]

seems logic to me, I took a video for my E34 when it had a manual and I was almost close to the 140m/h. my fastest till now was 255Km/h thats almost 160 mph actually thats when the EML stopped me :P ... wanted to reach the 300Km/h

[Tiger]

Ahem... yeah right. Anyone can do this... in their garage. It is a simple speedometer cluster reset... two buttone will do this.

[Digita1 Ecstasy]

You dont own an M5?

[Jr ///M5]

https://publish.insightbb.com/personalfile/personalsite/england31/Dscn1278.jpg

Here's what a picture looked like just doing close to 100, several were taken and it was a smooth road, but they all turned out a little blurred. It's amazing how clear yours is and at 160mph +....

What I was trying to get was the odometer reading when it rolled over to 100k doing 100mph.

I finally got the shot as I was driving through a school zone....:D

[swenpro]

It looks like he used a flash, and in such a situation he could have shot it with the shutter open only for a short time, maybe something like 1/4,000 of a second, which doesn't give much time for vibrations to blur the image.

This is true... the thermostat also reads slightly warmer than center

[NovceGuru]

This is true... the thermostat also reads slightly warmer than center

I think that's because of the angle the picture was taken at.

NovceGuru

[ILoveMPower]

Half of me wants to belief this as an M30 owner... but I'd have to say the speedo is off.

[Ross]

No, a 535i"m"anual not M

[Ross]

Your tire /wheel combo has a slightly smaller overall diameter than stock. Perhaps that combined with the 3.91 is enough to get the M30 to pull north of 6k in top gear. Given that the computer assumes the larger tire, the indications make sense.
For whatever it's worth 3200 revs in my touring = 82mph.

[Macv]

This is fukem5 all over again.

[Blitzkrieg Bob]

in France, who cares?

he can drive 160mph all time.

Just don't come out here...you'll run out of island real fast!

[Ross]

Wrong time of day for the Ozzies to be responsible

[Blitzkrieg Bob]

Thanks - I am a bit of a 'Pro' if one may be so bold....

Do a search on 'GOOGLE' for - flamin'cow

and (minus the Zombie things) see what you come up with....

"Drive safely - always carry a shot-gun"

FLAMINCOW
http://www.topcruisesites.net/all.asp?id=699

[BigKriss]

He's my mate!


This is fukem5 all over again.

[MPD47]

https://publish.insightbb.com/personalfile/personalsite/england31/Dscn1278.jpg

Here's what a picture looked like just doing close to 100, several were taken and it was a smooth road, but they all turned out a little blurred. It's amazing how clear yours is and at 160mph +....

What I was trying to get was the odometer reading when it rolled over to 100k doing 100mph.

100mph at 100k, niceeeee.

http://www.mturck.com/944/150k.jpg

Here's one from my 951 over the summer. As for blurry, a flash will make it crisp if you've prefocussed the camera. I had set this shot up on my DSLR so all I needed to do was grab the camera once cruising at 150 and snap the shot. Everything depends on setup. As for if an M30 can get going that fast, that's up for debate, but I have no doubts the photo is doable.

[Tiger]

Wow... zero oil pressure! Did you cooked your Porsche?

[KenB]

BAR..that's the Blood Alcohol Reading :D

[shogun]

A European 535 with 211 HP RPM runs as per spec. 235 kmh.
I assume the final drive is different from the US version.
So let's assume that a good going one runs 240-245 kmh and considering the error margin in accuracy of the speedmeter (always plus according to EU rules), that is a real pic.
Nothing special in Europe to drive more than 200 kmh on the Autobahn.

[Jon K]

Retarded - glad I live on this side of the pond. Very unlikely you skim across the entire ocean and slam into me, but weirder **** has happened.

[Ausmpower]

The M30 doesn't produce much power over 6K with a stock cam, airbox, chip.....

I have my pre and post chip dyno runs (i'll dig 'em up and scan them).

I've had mine topped out @ 240 kph after chipping (custom map) but it would only go to 225 prior.

yes mine's a manual....

[shogun]

That is right, I think the max power it produces at 5.800 RPM

[Paul in NZ]

the factory claim 146 mph if my memory is correct(euro 535 manual)

[Ausmpower]

that's only 234 kph! Under perfect conditions!

Woo hoo my chip gains me a net outcome of 6 kph....

The dyno says 39kw increase....

I suppose a brick is still a brick no matter how you look at it!

[Mas (UK)]

there is no doubt we all enjoy owning our pride and joy bm's and seems you do too. For me the people on this forum go a long way to enriching that experience, each in their own special way. To wish that your '89 vintage could delivery even close to such potential as you show, let's be honest now, is still just a happy dream of yours that makes you smile and feel all warm inside isn't it? Enjoy your driving, be safe and between you and me ... even though I agree the french motorways are pretty smooth compared to uk roads, me thinks your photo could be smoother with a bit more practice in front of your pc. :)

I give you a sporting 5/10 for effort!

Cheers,

Mas

[DaveVoorhis]

The Euro 535i had a stated top speed of 153mph; North American models were limited to a lower speed. Assuming the picture shows 6400 rpm, and assuming a stock tire diameter of 25.6 inches, and assuming a fifth gear ratio of 0.812, we can calculate the mph given the diff ratio of 3.91:

MPH = (engine rpm * tire diameter) / (rear end ratio * transmission gear ratio * 336)
MPH = (6400 * 25.6) / (3.91 * 0.812 * 336)
MPH = 154

[Flamin'Cow]

No it was running a bit hotter than normal - especially afterwards, and it smelt a bit like burning electrics for a while, but shes okay thismorning...

And yes I did take the piccy with the flash on, as if I hadn't it would have been all blurry.....

[Flamin'Cow]

Yes the final drive is different, as stated I have a 3.91 diff off an M5

[javoresku]

There is a RELATIVELY SAFE way to take this kind of pictures - On a airport runway.

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6206/im000310sw3.jpg

This is the old boosted 320i touring - I was aiming for 240 but ran out of runway and the gui with the camera was just a bit late - I was starting to brake.

[Flamin'Cow]

Yes and the section of motorway is on a decline.

[Ross]

Says the pot to the kettle.

[Ross]

My rough calculations yesterday using 3.91 diff, .81 top gear and the tire size stated got a result of ~147mph. Given the speedo thinks the tires are 5% larger 154 should be indicated. Looks like the speedo is a bit optimistic,but not absurdly so, 6% off I reckon. So as I said 147mph actual, not unbelieveable at all.
I believe you flamin'.

[Flamin'Cow]

THANKYOU!!!!!! and as for the picture not being all blurred - well I'm sorry I can take pictures better than all of you! - the bluury ones someone else has posted were obviously taken without a flash, so the exposure is held for longer - not a good idea if you want a decent piccy!

[Tiger]

This is more believable... the fact you are driving 150 and only one or no hand and trying to take pic yourself... not likely... a blink of an eye is enough to go over the curb into the tree.

[Macv]

Remember though, he's a "professional"

[Jon K]

THANKYOU!!!!!! and as for the picture not being all blurred - well I'm sorry I can take pictures better than all of you! - the bluury ones someone else has posted were obviously taken without a flash, so the exposure is held for longer - not a good idea if you want a decent piccy!

So you really think you can take pictures better than all of us huh?

[Ferret]

This thread creates:
+10 LOL
+7 DRAMA

Generates with each use:
+9 IRRITATION
+4 ANGST

Has been known to generate rivalry if user is sufficiently skilled.

[MPD47]

Wow... zero oil pressure! Did you cooked your Porsche?

Stock boost gauge, and it isnt hooked up. Know something about the car before you make a comment.

[mattyb]

not if Fukem 5(interntaional test driver and super star) was on a test assignment in europe while seeing his cousins in Bosnia

[Fetch]

please stop saying piccy for the love of god lol

[632 Regal]

LMFAO!
Says the pot to the kettle.

[632 Regal]

Piccy piccy piccy


please stop saying piccy for the love of god lol

[Flamin'Cow]

Dearest Fetch,

Please accept my most sincere and abject apologies for any discomfort you might have felt arising from my use of the 'slang' word - "Piccy".

Please be assured that I will endeavour to ensure that my usage of this word is curtailed in future posts.

Would "Pic" be an acceptable abbreviation to you?

Kind regards & piss off

Flamin'Cow

[Fetch]

lol

[DanDombrowski]

This reminds me of the thread where the kid wanted to be some awesome drift racer in on gravel roads with some car his parents gave him. I searched, but couldn't find it.

[nizmainiac]

gottadrift

[Macv]

This thread sucks.

[SharkmanBMW]

This thread sucks.


You got it baby.

Stupid move while taking a pic too.... get a co-pilot.
If anyone is willing to ride shotgun with you, that is!:p

[DanDombrowski]

YES! That's it!

I found it, it was moved to the Way OT forum.

http://www.bimmer.info/forum/showthread.php?p=101331

I just read through the whole thing. Hilarious.

[632 Regal]

but you keep coming back for more...LOL
This thread sucks.

[632 Regal]

lmao: "Let me try....UR so GHEY, LOL, but FYI, IMHO UR teh assclown"


YES! That's it!

I found it, it was moved to the Way OT forum.

http://www.bimmer.info/forum/showthread.php?p=101331

I just read through the whole thing. Hilarious.

[Phatty5BMW]

Hey Flamin'Cow, just bust out the video cam and lets see it.... i know i want too :)

[632 Regal]

me too
Hey Flamin'Cow, just bust out the video cam and lets see it.... i know i want too :)

[grave77]

well that makes ur car exactly like the Japanese specs. it come with a 3.91 diff. but with stock chip it reaches to the 6200 RPM @ 235 Km/h so with a rev limit increase to 6500 u wont get more than 240 - 245Km/h so maybe ur meter is 5 - 10 Km over the real speed. to confirm that you can reset the OBC when pressing the speed button and see the reading.

Edit: do u have manual or auto tranny? the above is for auto tranny. Japanese specs never came with manual. if u have manual is it 5 or 6 speeds from an M5?

[Arxon]

Here in Europe French drivers are famous:D ... Don't forget this, Frenchs were the first who made plastic bumbers:)
Hey Flamin, a partner of mine to my work owns a 525 with auto trans, he says that he touched the 260Km...and he believes himself! I'll give him your photo

[Flamin'Cow]

Manual 5-speed, sintered rally-style clutch...

[Macv]

but you keep coming back for more...LOL

Hell yeah, can't miss this.

[Macv]

+1 for the video

[Jon K]

Manual 5-speed, sintered rally-style clutch...

LOL "sintered rally style clutch" on a stock 535? Bwahaha. Nice bro, nice.

Tell ya what. I'll pay shipping it over to the US - I'll run you to 160 mph, loser sucks a dick, deal?

[MPD47]

You know how I know you're gay?

[Jon K]

You know how I know you're gay?

Because you let me do you from beh....

[MPD47]

Actually I was gonna say because your dick tastes like ****...

[Jon K]

Actually I was gonna say because your dick tastes like ****...

LOL not my fault you had a bad lunch.

[MPD47]

:(

[rob101]

You know how I know you're gay?
all i heard was blah blah blah 951 blah blah

dam i love 951s

[Jon K]

:(

Don't worry, we'll hug later.

[Ausmpower]

Manual 5-speed, sintered rally-style clutch...

OOhh You need a button clutch for 160 Kw? What a POS in traffic!

Why would you bother? Hmm never seen a RALLY STYLE E34!

Changing diff ratio's would have thrown your speedo out (over reading):p

M5 diff Eh? Are you sure it's not just a 3.9 LSD? (Mine has the 3.9 lsd too...deffinately NOT out of an M5! but a 535 AUTO)

Also :

1994 BMW E34 M5
Year 1994
Make BMW
Model E34 M5
Engine Location Front
Drive Type Rear Wheel
Weight 3803 lbs | 1725 kg

Performance
0-60 mph 5.8 seconds.
Top Speed 155.3 mph | 249.9 km/h

so you M30 powered E34 has a faster terminal speed than an E34 M5 Huh....Don't think so. With nearly 90 Kw less than the M5?

Maybe you should get a pic of a gps reading in your car at that speed.

Also how did you bypass the speed limiter? Aftermarket ecu?

Stock Diff ratios:

525i M20 89-91 5 speed 3.73
525i M20 89-91 Automatic 4.10
525i M50 All 3.23
535i 5 speed 3.46
535i ->6/90 Automatic 3.91
535i 7/90-> Automatic 4.27
530i 5 speed (M60) 3.07
530i Automatic (M60) 3.15
530i 5 speed (M30) 3.64
540i ->3/04 2.93
540i 4/94-> 2.81
M5 3.6 <-7/91 3.91
M5 3.6 7/91-> 3.73

Stock E34 performance:
535i
'88-'92
M30 6 - 3430cc
Top speed: 235 km/h
0-100 Kph: 7.7 sec
Max power: 208hp / 211bhp
max torque: 225ft.lbs@4000 Rpm
Comp: 9.0:1

[pingu]

But if you used a flash was on, that would have made the (relatively dimly lit) range and mileage displays invisible, yet in your photo they're bright enough to be visible during flash photography?

Are you sure you weren't motionless and didn't use a flash?

[jrobbo]

Also :

1994 BMW E34 M5
Year 1994
Make BMW
Model E34 M5
Engine Location Front
Drive Type Rear Wheel
Weight 3803 lbs | 1725 kg

Performance
0-60 mph 5.8 seconds.
Top Speed 155.3 mph | 249.9 km/h

so you M30 powered E34 has a faster terminal speed than an E34 M5 Huh....Don't think so. With nearly 90 Kw less than the M5?


The M5 was electronically limited to 250km/h, as per the pact between Mercedes, Audi and BMW. Without the limiter, the 3.8litre M5 was capable of about 275km/h. Having said that, I don't beleive for a second that a 535i can make it to 160mph, I reckon the lower diff ratio means that his speedo calibration is way out as someone mentioned earlier.

John

[Ferret]

Here in Europe French drivers are famous:D ... Don't forget this, Frenchs were the first who made plastic bumbers:)
Hey Flamin, a partner of mine to my work owns a 525 with auto trans, he says that he touched the 260Km...and he believes himself! I'll give him your photo

Oi, the Italians are worse!

We took the landrover over there, and within 20 minutes of crossing the swiss/italian border an old renault 5 tried to take us out on the motorway... there's about a 2 tonne difference!

They're crazy I tell you, crazy!

EDIT : Having said that, the Greek are the only people capable of appearing a car out of thin air the instant you put a toe out to cross a road!