power steering pulley went out...

[Boone.Msi]

Its been making an awful squeeling for the past couple of weeks, to go along with groaning from the power steering pump. My best guess is that a couple of the bearings have burned/locked up?

Well ive been looking for a replacement and cant seem to find any, can anyone post a link or let me know where to get one?

Thanks,
-Boone

[632 Regal]

did you contact rigmaster or kalavera?

[Boone.Msi]

i may have made a mistake, acording to realoem its my idler pulley

http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=HE23&mospid=47406&btnr=11_1238&hg=11&fg=18

at least i think it is, its the pulley closest to the ground near the alternator intake boot.

[632 Regal]

I think that would be the power steering pully, the idlers are smaller. Also note that the idlers are 2 different sizes so make sure you order both so you dont need to reorder after you figure out that you have the wrong one (like I did) I ended up getting 2 small ones and replaced the AC idler. One was complete trash and all the rest were running dry, so it was a good call.

[Boone.Msi]

ok, did another check, it is most definantly the power steering pulley. It at first was just making a clicking noise, my idle went shaky, and loud groans from the power steering at low speeds.

Now its screaming/clanking like a banshee out of hell. Anyone have any input on replacing these? I wanna rip my ears off when im at a stoplight with this thing, embarrassing:(

[Boone.Msi]

http://realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/u/j/128.png

Anyone know if there are any bearing in the pulley? Im probably gonna slit my wrist if my power steering pump is failing...

[632 Regal]

my car gets the loud belt squeeling at cold start idle and thought it was the idlers, 1 was was trashed so that was it...not. Now I'm thinking it's the alternater but as you unsure...probably my PS pump also. How much are these things new anyways?

[Boone.Msi]

i don't know...$300ish? ive heard nothing but horror stories on changing these though.

I dont know WTF is going on, i have no alternator whine, cooling is tip-top and now im starting to hear my belt squeel on cold starts. At first it was just a mild clicking with the groan of the pump, now its making all sorts of noise...

A failing pump couldn't stretch a belt could it?

EDIT:

Someone found these for me, not too bad for rmftd.
http://www.napaonline.com/masterpages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470&LineCode=NSP&PartNumber=215968&Description=Power+Steering+Pump+w%2fo+Reservoir+-+Remfd

Or go see NAPA. $154 w/$100 core.

http://www.cardone.com/English/club/products/webcat/imageinfo.asp?PARTNUM=215968

$122 w/$90 core at rock auto.
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[aston_jag_tech]

dude, replace the belts!

Replaced an idler pulley, serp belt, s/c belt on a old db7 girl...idler pulley seized...it was cool :p

[Boone.Msi]

O realy? That would be simple as hell, i thought the source of the problem would be where the noise was coming from, wich was obviously the power steering pulley. Il check again and go with your idea first.

[Ferret]

O realy?

http://www.cassioposa.net/photos/inline/o-rly.jpg

*Cough* sorry, post whoring again.

[Scott C]

dude, replace the belts!

Replaced an idler pulley, serp belt, s/c belt on a old db7 girl...idler pulley seized...it was cool :p

New Idlers and NEW FLUID in the PS system solved my whine and squeal...
I was afraid I was going to have to replace the pump but this fixed her up (and I did it over 1 year ago - still fine)
Scott

[Boone.Msi]

when your idler pulley seized what were the symptoms of it failing, what led you to believe it was the pulley?

Should i get the belt and what else:

Tensioner spring
http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/11281736979.jpg

and/or the tensioner assembly
http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/11281736724.jpg

or just the pulley?
http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/11281731220.jpg

If i pull on my belt will i be able to tell if the cause is of loss of tension, how tight should the belt be?

[Scott C]

when your idler pulley seized what were the symptoms of it failing, what led you to believe it was the pulley?

Should i get the belt and what else:

Tensioner spring
http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/11281736979.jpg

and/or the tensioner assembly
http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/11281736724.jpg

or just the pulley?
http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/11281731220.jpg

If i pull on my belt will i be able to tell if the cause is of loss of tension, how tight should the belt be?

I replaced the tensioner assembly AND the pulley for the A/C if I remember correctly. I don't recall if pulling the belt off allowed me to determine if the were bad. I think one was a little rough and loose so I just ordered them and installed them. It was PM on my part as much as anything else.

[Boone.Msi]

well on my way to class for finals this morning and my belt slipped off...

Didn't even hear it or notice, first indication was my battery light came on, so im like WTF? then my temp starts to rise, then as im going around a curve, i....cant...turn... OH GOD WTF IM GONNA DIE! i finally manage to slow down, pull over and check it out. By this time i know whats happened, sure enough my belts laying there all cozy in the engine bay...

Anyways, lucky me my friend is driving not to far behind me and picks me up, i make it to class 5 minutes late(professors cool, so im good) left the car sitting there 10 minutes from school. I managed to stretch the belt back over the pulleys, thank god its easy to figure out the directional pattern. Im figuring on atempting to drive it home, its a 30 minute drive, what do you guys think?

So the question is, should i just get a new belt and see if that fixes my problems or go ahead and buy the tensioner arm/pulley while im at it. Would the pulley make the clicking/squeeling noises rather than the belt and cause my power steering to groan because the belts loose? I thought it would be the other way around, belt screeches/whines when loose, pulley stays quiet...

lemme know guys, thanks like always...


EDIT: is the tensioner adjustable or self adjusting?

[Boone.Msi]

well, made it home:D, On my way to pick up a new goodyear gatorback belt thats on sale!


EDIT:
http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=HE23&mospid=47406&btnr=11_1238&hg=11&fg=18

ok, did a search and that answered a few questions. Assuming that i tighten the nut to the farthest left of the lever, that would be the tightest position correct? #10 and 8 on the diagram