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Jon K
07-03-2007, 11:26 AM
So this morning I woke up - I had purchased VHT vinyl dye about 3 months ago. I told myself that while I am looking for a job I will take my dashboard out and dye it black because the tan one was (ugly) sunburned around the gauge cluster which was detracting from my cars overall appearance. I want to do the whole car black with tan door inserts, but let's take baby steps.

http://blowneuroz.com/mygallery/My%20E34%20525i%20Interior/dash1.jpg

http://blowneuroz.com/mygallery/My%20E34%20525i%20Interior/dash2.jpg

Originally, for whatever reason, and I might be yet to find out, BMW tucked all the wiring harness that goes from the left side to the right side of the car up inside the dashboard, wrapping around all the air ducts and wire tied between 10 - 20 times throughout. I relocated all the wiring so that it now sits UNDER the air ducts - I figure if the air ducts fit over the wiring comfortably, and the dash fits over the air ducts, there's no reason the wiring cannot be down there. I guess during assembly BMW does things in another order that makes their method better, but if I tried to put it back together the way it came out, I'd have to first tie all the wiring to the dashboard about 10" of length, then try and keep the wiring up as I insert the dash. NOT FUN.

So now that I have it out, I cleaned it with simple green and a rag, let it air dry a couple mins, and had at it with the VHT dye. The one thing I will say - I wish VHT used those spray cans that have that feathering/fan spray pattern because I have used those to spray primer on wheels before and they are SO smooth. I did not have any issue with the cans/nozzles VHT uses, but I just hate the typical spray paint tip because if you let the can go too low, you start to get some aerosol bursts with the medium. Anyway, I didn't let the cans run too low while doing this because of that experience, so I prob about about 1/10th left in each can. I will use it on parts that aren't in plain sight - unlike a dashboard!

So here it is, after 2 coats of spray.

http://blowneuroz.com/mygallery/My%20E34%20525i%20Interior/dash3.jpg

I am letting it try for probably about 6 hrs before putting it back in. I won't attempt to clean it or anything until a couple days from now.

I'll have to see if I have any other pics, but if you look in this pic you can see discoloration on the dash in front of the gauge cluster:

http://blowneuroz.com/mygallery/E34%20525i%20Photos/paint1.jpg

Hard to see, but the flat portion of the dash at the windshield and such had very prevalent sun burn. Big maybe 2.5 - 3" splotches of black. Thought it was mold at first and was like "WTF!" then realized its burns probably due to the convex of the windshield perhaps it rectifies the sun, dunno.

Martin in Bellevue
07-03-2007, 11:40 AM
Why not pop the vin tag off? There are 2 metal retainers underneath.

Macv
07-03-2007, 11:42 AM
Looking good.

How long did it take you to take the dash out initially? Took me forever.

Jon K
07-03-2007, 11:48 AM
Looking good.

How long did it take you to take the dash out initially? Took me forever.

Only about an hour. I've got a lot of experience taking out the center fash (which I semi-sorta left in) so I kind of knew where stuff was. I didn't realize how much wiring was actually inside the dash, but as you can see in the pics above, I tucked it all cleanly.

Jon K
07-03-2007, 03:37 PM
Ok guys its done. My wire tuck behind the dash made installation WAY easier than removal. Its a very clean wiring job behind the dash which leaves more room and space if I have to run more switches for anything at a later date, etc. All I have left to do is install the gauge cluster again but I am waiting til tomorrow night because the dye has to cure. I know for sure if I tried to squeeze the gauges in there, since its a tight fit, it will mess up the finish on the dash right now. Other than a spot on the passenger end (can't see it with the door closed, its literally on the side of the dash) the size of a BB that I need to touch up, I would call this job perfect. I hope it lasts, as it's not very fun to do. I have heard people have good outcome with this stuff so let's find out.

http://blowneuroz.com/mygallery/My%20E34%20525i%20Interior/dash4.jpg

http://blowneuroz.com/mygallery/My%20E34%20525i%20Interior/dash5.jpg

Dr. Bimmer
07-03-2007, 03:51 PM
Great job! Looks really good. BTW tell me about the steering wheel. Do all the buttons work, what car did it come from...etc. Thanks

TC535i
07-03-2007, 04:13 PM
Why didn't you fix the $$#@^%)#@$^ center vent when you had everything apart???

Jon K
07-03-2007, 04:15 PM
Why didn't you fix the $$#@^%)#@$^ center vent when you had everything apart???


The dash is warped! It's not "broken" it just doesn't fit right. I have a heat gun. Tomorrow I am going to try and heat it and mold it to fit a little better.


Dr. Bimmer - no buttons don't work, its from a 330ci Sport.

I would some interesting clock spring center to get a safe means of passing wiring thru the steering column.

Dr. Bimmer
07-03-2007, 04:19 PM
my dash is warped at the top left of the center vent too. let me know how the heat gun works.

Jon K
07-03-2007, 04:23 PM
my dash is warped at the top left of the center vent too. let me know how the heat gun works.

I'll do you one better, I will go try it now :)

Macv
07-03-2007, 04:29 PM
Oh, turned out quite nice. I thought you were doing all the interior panels, and kinda hoping not.

I just realized you don't have the passenger airbag...... that was a bitch.

Ross
07-03-2007, 05:06 PM
Looks very nice, Jon. I'd prefer to see more beer bottles in the recycle bin though.
Take your steering wheel off when you reinstall the cluster, I'd hate to see you muck up the new look sqeezing the cluster in.

Jon K
07-03-2007, 05:15 PM
Oh, turned out quite nice. I thought you were doing all the interior panels, and kinda hoping not.

I just realized you don't have the passenger airbag...... that was a bitch.


I am prob going to be doing the lower dash and center dash black also, along with the doors. The doors will have tan door inserts though - it'll look neat.

Here is what I accomplished with about 25 mins and a heat gun. Both sides now fit this perfectly:

http://blowneuroz.com/mygallery/My%20E34%20525i%20Interior/dash6.jpg

Be careful if you guys are going to reshape the vent - the thick portions take a lot of heat, but the thin slats (and even thinner vertical bits on the back) take way less before they can no longer support them selves. The key I found is to heat the big areas until the skinny parts start to blister a little. Then, stop. Let it cool... the big mass will stay hot the small mass will cool. Heat again. Do this 3 times... then, last time, bend it on a table and heat it as you bend. Then stop. Hold the bend for about 5 minutes.

Macv
07-03-2007, 05:31 PM
The doors will have tan door inserts though - it'll look neat.



Before I replaced my door panels I had dyed the armrests black and it looked pretty neat.

BigKriss
07-04-2007, 03:28 AM
You have now done to many modificaitions Jon. Cease and desist. I love the black dashboard, but I find it hard to believe it only took you one hour.

Rusty
07-04-2007, 05:33 AM
Kriss: The removal of the dashboard took him an hour.

Joh K: The dash looks great. Good luck with the rest of the interior, and better luck with your job search.

Jon K
07-04-2007, 07:20 AM
Thanks guys!

BigKriss
07-04-2007, 07:31 AM
Did you clean the dashboard with solvent before applying the VHT die?

Jon K
07-04-2007, 07:37 AM
Did you clean the dashboard with solvent before applying the VHT die?

I wiped it down with a mild Simple Green : Water solution.

Tiger
07-04-2007, 08:43 AM
Might as well take those air ducts out and wash them thoroughly

Jon K
07-04-2007, 08:46 AM
Already back together - I already washed everything anyway, though.

BigKriss
07-05-2007, 05:53 AM
the black is looking kinda hot
http://blowneuroz.com/mygallery/My%20E34%20525i%20Interior/dash4.jpg

leicesterboy15
07-05-2007, 06:17 AM
The dash looks great, BMW wiring looms are scary, soo many cables. I remember when I sprayed the dash on my Fiesta, there were 2 wires behind the dash!!

Whats alt the kit in your centre console? Is that a screen? That looks very interesting, is it all after market and installed by your good self?

Jon K
07-05-2007, 08:09 AM
The dash looks great, BMW wiring looms are scary, soo many cables. I remember when I sprayed the dash on my Fiesta, there were 2 wires behind the dash!!

Whats alt the kit in your centre console? Is that a screen? That looks very interesting, is it all after market and installed by your good self?

Its a custom fiberglassed touch screen I made.

rreimund
07-05-2007, 08:59 AM
Nice look.. I've had good luck with the VHT dye as well.
I had an A2 Golf that needed a headliner - so I put in a nice black one to replace the nasty grey one. Then I took the interior A-pillar, B-pillar, and C-pillar trim out and dyed it along with the sun visors (vinyl) an brackets. It stuck great, didn't fade, and didn't come off in your hand or anything - Very colorfast once it dried.

My E34 is all black - but I was thinking of doing the lowers in tan. Anyways - looks good.

dennyg
07-05-2007, 11:42 AM
Hey Jon. You bought the glove box latch from me. For a few bucks more I could have sold you the black dash. Oh well either way thats a lot of work! Looks good.