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johnnyturbo2002
05-08-2008, 01:30 AM
I am wondering if there is a very easy way to have the lights on all the time that the ignition is on. Basically driving lights. Can I just pull a fuse or rig it so that can happen? any help appreciated.
Cheers,
John

Dave M
05-08-2008, 06:12 AM
Great question. Hopefully someone with electrical knowledge will have an easy answer. Canadian vehicles are required to have daytime running lights. Are they required on new US vehicles?. I've seen a rudimentary daytime running light kit installed by friends on two vehicles imported from the US. It consisted of a wire wrapped around around a spark plug lead/wire, which sent a signal to relay, which inn turn sent a signal to the lights. As you can tell, I'm no electrical guru, but I would think there exists a cleaner, simpler solution for this, given the amount of electrical built into these vehicles.

Good luck with it, I'll be watching the thread,

Dave

Ferret
05-08-2008, 07:48 AM
Great question. Hopefully someone with electrical knowledge will have an easy answer. Canadian vehicles are required to have daytime running lights. Are they required on new US vehicles?. I've seen a rudimentary daytime running light kit installed by friends on two vehicles imported from the US. It consisted of a wire wrapped around around a spark plug lead/wire, which sent a signal to relay, which inn turn sent a signal to the lights. As you can tell, I'm no electrical guru, but I would think there exists a cleaner, simpler solution for this, given the amount of electrical built into these vehicles.

Good luck with it, I'll be watching the thread,

Dave

Vampire a feed off the ignition line from the key barrel, run it upto a small relay behind the light switch and bridge the side/running lights cables with it. That way when you switch the ignition on, the relay closes and switches on the side lights.

Am I gonna need to draw another diagram :D ?

Dave M
05-08-2008, 07:55 AM
Vampire a feed off the ignition line from the key barrel, run it upto a small relay behind the light switch and bridge the side/running lights cables with it. That way when you switch the ignition on, the relay closes and switches on the side lights.

Am I gonna need to draw another diagram :D ?

If I tried that without clearly illustrated instructions, there would be nothing but a pile of embers................. :D

Dave

Ross
05-08-2008, 08:10 AM
Good question. On the wiring diagram it looks like jumping the #3 & #10 pins of the headlight switch would do it.
I'm off to give it a try, will report back.

Ross
05-08-2008, 08:18 AM
Yup, works like that. Low beam headlights only, no rear lights or park lights.
Jump the #3 yel/gry wire that is dead center on the connector to #10 which is an adjacent grn/blu wire.

Dave M
05-08-2008, 08:37 AM
Yup, works like that. Low beam headlights only, no rear lights or park lights.
Jump the #3 yel/gry wire that is dead center on the connector to #10 which is an adjacent grn/blu wire.

Nice job Ross. Whats your guess for getting the rear lights going?

When a good friend was considering importing an e39 touring from the US, BMW Canada quoted some ridiculous figure (~$700) to provide daytime running lights. To make it worse, they (bmw) will not allow anyone else to perform the minor changes needed to import a vehicle.

Dave

Ross
05-08-2008, 08:39 AM
I'll do it for six hundred (U.S.), right after I take down my previos post.
Give me a minute for the rear lights.

Ross
05-08-2008, 08:53 AM
Okee dokee. It looks like if you were to change the feed to fuses 4&5 to be hot only in the "run" position instead of hot at all times that would work, with the switch left on. I thought of jumping the two park light signal wires to the connection for the headlights but this wouldn't work because of feed ing power to the park light circuit at all times from the #2 fuse.
I don't feel like opening my fuse box so it's up to the rest of you to give it a try. Don't come crying if I'm wrong.

Dave M
05-08-2008, 09:09 AM
Okee dokee. It looks like if you were to change the feed to fuses 4&5 to be hot only in the "run" position instead of hot at all times that would work, with the switch left on. I thought of jumping the two park light signal wires to the connection for the headlights but this wouldn't work because of feed ing power to the park light circuit at all times from the #2 fuse.
I don't feel like opening my fuse box so it's up to the rest of you to give it a try. Don't come crying if I'm wrong.


Haha, awesome. The board strikes yet again.

Dave

johnnyturbo2002
05-08-2008, 04:04 PM
Megathanks!!!willtrythisweekend damn space bar!!!

repenttokyo
05-08-2008, 04:17 PM
Nice job Ross. Whats your guess for getting the rear lights going?

When a good friend was considering importing an e39 touring from the US, BMW Canada quoted some ridiculous figure (~$700) to provide daytime running lights. To make it worse, they (bmw) will not allow anyone else to perform the minor changes needed to import a vehicle.

Dave


you can get any changes done anywhere you want, when they do the RIV inspection they do not ask you where you got the DRL installed. So no need to go to BMW.

Tiger
05-09-2008, 07:54 AM
In US, all car rentall place have their car rigged that when you turn on the ignition, the lights are on. Should be a simple solution for this if you search on internet.

I would imagine just by switching to euro LKM would automatically makes it daylight running lamp. How could that cost $700?

repenttokyo
05-09-2008, 09:12 AM
In US, all car rentall place have their car rigged that when you turn on the ignition, the lights are on. Should be a simple solution for this if you search on internet.

I would imagine just by switching to euro LKM would automatically makes it daylight running lamp. How could that cost $700?


or even Canadian LKM.

Claude
05-09-2008, 12:15 PM
Nice job Ross. Whats your guess for getting the rear lights going?

When a good friend was considering importing an e39 touring from the US, BMW Canada quoted some ridiculous figure (~$700) to provide daytime running lights. To make it worse, they (bmw) will not allow anyone else to perform the minor changes needed to import a vehicle.

Dave

FYI in Canada the day light time light fonction activate only the low head light beam when the car is running nothing lightup on the rear of the car.

repenttokyo
05-09-2008, 12:58 PM
FYI in Canada the day light time light fonction activate only the low head light beam when the car is running nothing lightup on the rear of the car.

depends on the car. I leave my parking lights in the on position, when i turn the car on and off, the drl's and the parking lights all around turn on and off.

Dave M
05-09-2008, 09:48 PM
depends on the car. I leave my parking lights in the on position, when i turn the car on and off, the drl's and the parking lights all around turn on and off.

ditto

shanek
05-10-2008, 04:42 PM
Canadian cars have an extra relay for DRLs, it has nothing to do with the LKM. Its in the Bentley manual, I don't have it here and can't remember which one, but I think its in the front power distribution box. I picked up a new LKM from a US car and the DRLs still work.

DueyT
05-17-2008, 01:05 AM
ditto

ditto ditto

johnbarton
06-02-2008, 02:41 AM
make it some activity http://usautolighting.com