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Jon K
08-24-2008, 08:13 PM
Hey guys - rolled the hell out of my fenders today (rears) with my new harbor freight fender roller. It went very well, but I forgot to measure before rolling to see how much I improved. I definitely have more room, but I was hoping to find out how much more.

I measured from the shock tube outter edge (closest to the fender) to the inner lip of the un-rolled fender and got just below 11.0" I think. Then I rolled the fenders and I am over like 11.65" of clearance. I think.

It sounds like a huge gain to me - I think I rolled the lip as well as pulled the fender some. I was hoping someone could measure theirs for me to confirm a stock, unrolled fender wheel well width. You can probably do it without jacking the car on a stock suspension car.

Thanks guys!
BigKriss
08-24-2008, 08:42 PM
do you have a link for the fender roller?
Jon K
08-24-2008, 09:12 PM
Sorry its not Harbor Freight, its Eastwood. I confuse the two all the time.

http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=21550&itemType=PRODUCT
BigKriss
08-24-2008, 09:14 PM
thanks. normally "they" charge aus$50 per fender here.
Jon K
08-24-2008, 09:15 PM
Yah - I just bought the tool. I figure I'll have it, which is nice, but can loan it to friends and eventually recover my investment, if I desire.
632 Regal
08-25-2008, 12:18 AM
tub it and get some real meet under there
Yah - I just bought the tool. I figure I'll have it, which is nice, but can loan it to friends and eventually recover my investment, if I desire.
Paul in NZ
08-25-2008, 01:54 AM
275 mm from the shock body immediately below the spring to the inside flange of the wheel arch.thats 10.826 inches.I could just get my rule across the top of the tyre and stay below the spring .
BigKriss
08-25-2008, 04:22 AM
can you give up some pics Jon
Jon K
08-25-2008, 08:43 AM
tub it and get some real meet under there

I already fit 275/50/15's which is a 10.5w tire. I will probably eventually put a straight axle in it, but not yet.
Jon K
08-25-2008, 08:44 AM
275 mm from the shock body immediately below the spring to the inside flange of the wheel arch.thats 10.826 inches.I could just get my rule across the top of the tyre and stay below the spring .

EXCELLENT! That confirms what i measured and that I am not crazy. When I measured after the fact, I saw over 11.5 - 11.6 inches and thought I was nuts when I measured < 11" before. 10.8" sounds exactly like what I had measured. Thanks so much!
Jon K
08-25-2008, 08:45 AM
can you give up some pics Jon

Of the fitment? I will snag pics tonight if its not rainy. Theres not much to look at - just my Mickey Thompsons fitting without rubbing ;)
BigKriss
08-25-2008, 09:41 AM
how wide are the wheels, and whats the max tire width you are going to put on there?


I already fit 275/50/15's which is a 10.5w tire. I will probably eventually put a straight axle in it, but not yet.
Jon K
08-25-2008, 10:06 AM
They are 15x8" wheels with 275/60/15's - I will probably not run a tire much wider. The Mickey Thompson 275 is more like a 305 though - I have pictures of it next to a hoosier 305 and its nearly identical.
Paul in NZ
08-25-2008, 03:56 PM
i would estimate that the flange it self would be 20mm 3/4/inch
Jon K
08-25-2008, 04:31 PM
i would estimate that the flange it self would be 20mm 3/4/inch

The flange of the inner fender? I dont think so mine had already been moved with tires before. It was deff < 1/2".
bubba966
08-25-2008, 04:46 PM
When do the Zeemax or ACS Silhouette fenders get installed?
Jon K
08-25-2008, 06:33 PM
Never - they'd never survive the abuse of a car twisting and moving around like I intend. The only way to go is tubbed.
Paul in NZ
08-25-2008, 06:41 PM
The flange of the inner fender? I dont think so mine had already been moved with tires before. It was deff < 1/2".

you could be right Jon..i was only going by feel...i didnt measure it
632 Regal
08-26-2008, 12:15 AM
tubbed is good but you need to compromise either twisties or straight ahead power. there is NO in between if your putting good power to the ground. I ran 15x15 wheels, no twisties, if I went 15x12 perhaps I could get something somewhat able to turn onto a freeway ramp but thats it. with 10s its easy but you have no power to the pavement like the M5 track video. its a tossoff either way and a shame we cant have both yet.


Never - they'd never survive the abuse of a car twisting and moving around like I intend. The only way to go is tubbed.
Paul in NZ
08-26-2008, 05:24 AM
tubbed is good but you need to compromise either twisties or straight ahead power. there is NO in between if your putting good power to the ground. I ran 15x15 wheels, no twisties, if I went 15x12 perhaps I could get something somewhat able to turn onto a freeway ramp but thats it. with 10s its easy but you have no power to the pavement like the M5 track video. its a tossoff either way and a shame we cant have both yet.
can you expalin a litlle Jeff or Jon...not familiar with these terms/arguements...but interested!
bubba966
08-26-2008, 03:50 PM
Never - they'd never survive the abuse of a car twisting and moving around like I intend. The only way to go is tubbed.

How would the Zeemax fenders be any different than OE fenders for durability? The Zeemax fenders are fully steel fenders that completely replace the OE fenders. I think the ACS fenders are the same, but I don't know for sure.

I can see that adding fender extensions to the OE fenders wouldn't work and would break off from chassis twist.
Jon K
08-26-2008, 09:15 PM
How would the Zeemax fenders be any different than OE fenders for durability? The Zeemax fenders are fully steel fenders that completely replace the OE fenders. I think the ACS fenders are the same, but I don't know for sure.

I can see that adding fender extensions to the OE fenders wouldn't work and would break off from chassis twist.

Are you sure they are steel? The rear fenders are part of the one body design. That means even if they are welded they'll need to be molded in with FG or bondo... that won't hold up.