OT: Subaru Forester, need opinions..............

[Dave M]

OK, first off, there is very little choice in used hatchbacks where I live. We need a hatch with good winter manners for as little as possible. I came across a high mile (proven highway miles) 2000 Sub forester, which has received head gaskets and timing belt in the past 6 months (these engines apparently eat gaskets).

I've never been a fan of Subs and have read a bunch of reviews recently that condemn them for head gaskets, CELs, piston slap (appently harmless), cat converters, O2 sensors, knock sensors and wheel bearings.

Does anyon have anything good to say. The price is REALLY low due to high miles (300k kms = ~190k miles), which I'm afraid of as we'll do a swap if/when it gets to that point.

Curious, so let me have it. And remember, pickins are slim.................

Dave

[repenttokyo]

two of my friends have forresters, and like them. my sister has an outback with the head gasket problem.

[Blitzkrieg Bob]

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=cars&sc=&sc2=&sc3=&id=75344

Read up on it

[Ferret]

Always liked the Forresters, they're wolves in sheeps clothing...

Iirc impretza (sp?) just bolt straight onto them for the main part.

EDIT: Er, that was supposed to be 'impretza parts'

[repenttokyo]

Always liked the Forresters, they're wolves in sheeps clothing...

Iirc impretza (sp?) just bolt straight onto them for the main part.


The Subaru XT uses the same running gear as the WRX, giving it a 0-60 in the 5 second range I believe (some heavy gearing involved).

[Ross]

Don't forget the rainbow decal.

[Bill R.]

head gaskets, burnt valves, Numerous automatic transmission failures , usually front clutch pack. Long hesitation when shifting from park to reverse or drive. When changing the timing belt on these, almost always the tensioner assy and all the idler pulleys and seals need to be replaced, Typical honda or toyota at 100k you change only the belt , idlers and tensioner are usually fine. Cracked Y pipe assy with the cats as part of it. Very pricey from the dealer but on cars with lower mileage it was warranteed...Lotsa little emission failures codes for charcoal canister and leaks in the evaporative system... And here in Arizona everything for a subaru is prices probably double toyota,nissan, honda parts prices. Quentin in Australia said it was the opposite there, I don't know how it is in Canada, if the parts are cheaper or more. They seem to be fairly troublesome considering what a die hard group of owners they have... similar to Saab owners i guess, gluttons for punishment

[Dave M]

Aren't they all lesbians? No wait, we wish they were all lesbians. No wait, we wish they were all lesbians and we were all hot lesbian jailbait........

Bill, thanks for the lowdown, even though you failed to drop a single carpet munching comment. I'll pay extra attention to the autobox when I test drive it later this afternoon. As for the engine, I'm not too shy about head gaskets and timing belts, its the tranny and any other diagnostic PITAs that will get me down.

I'll be sure to follow up if we buy it.

Dave

[DanDombrowski]

Dave,

First of all, wanted to say hi, haven't been on this board in awhile. How are things holding up?

I'll first start with an obligatory Canada comment - "Does the subaru run okay on maple syrup, or will you have to find gasoline for it?"

Anyway, my grandparents bought a subie (want to say an outback, don't know what year) but were blown away with its snow handling abilities, they loved it. Donated it to my aunt and uncle in Colorado later on, and they loved it, until they blew the engine. I had to read between the lines, but it seems they ran it low on oil, so don't take that as a negative comment.

The real information is in that they bought a rebuilt engine from the subaru dealer and had it put in, and they said that failed shortly after. Don't have any details on that, sorry. Bottom line is they said the car was nickel and diming them to death, but like I said, they're not car people and the car may not have been to blame.

Hope that helps at least some.

[Dave M]

Dave,

First of all, wanted to say hi, haven't been on this board in awhile. How are things holding up?

I'll first start with an obligatory Canada comment - "Does the subaru run okay on maple syrup, or will you have to find gasoline for it?"

Anyway, my grandparents bought a subie (want to say an outback, don't know what year) but were blown away with its snow handling abilities, they loved it. Donated it to my aunt and uncle in Colorado later on, and they loved it, until they blew the engine. I had to read between the lines, but it seems they ran it low on oil, so don't take that as a negative comment.

The real information is in that they bought a rebuilt engine from the subaru dealer and had it put in, and they said that failed shortly after. Don't have any details on that, sorry. Bottom line is they said the car was nickel and diming them to death, but like I said, they're not car people and the car may not have been to blame.

Hope that helps at least some.

It does help Dan, thanks. Things on the e34 front are great. I haven't had to do any significant repairs in the past two years, so its treating me well. I almost wish it would throw me a brake lining fault so I can have some fun. Maybe thats why I see this orphaned Sub as a way to spend some quality garage time and save some $$. If I picked it up for $1000 (conceivable), did the front brakes, front axles and some other general maintenance, it would be a bargain. If/when the engine and or tranny pukes, I'd still be ahead...............maybe.

Anyhow, it starts, it runs, it shifts. I'll likely throw them a very low ball offer in a couple of weeks if its still there. Hope evertythings well with you.

Dave

[Dave M]

Oh, we quit running stuff on maple syrup as soon as we found out how to coax oil out of sand. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_sands)

Pancakes = excuse to eat butter and syrup

Corn on the cob = excuse to eat butter and salt

Mashed potatoes = excuse to eat gravy

I digress

[repenttokyo]

mmmm - mashed potatoes.

[Bill R.]

spend some quality time out in the garage if thats what you want. 1000 sounds a little high to me... I can get non rusty trashed out subies here for that price




It does help Dan, thanks. Things on the e34 front are great. I haven't had to do any significant repairs in the past two years, so its treating me well. I almost wish it would throw me a brake lining fault so I can have some fun. Maybe thats why I see this orphaned Sub as a way to spend some quality garage time and save some $$. If I picked it up for $1000 (conceivable), did the front brakes, front axles and some other general maintenance, it would be a bargain. If/when the engine and or tranny pukes, I'd still be ahead...............maybe.

Anyhow, it starts, it runs, it shifts. I'll likely throw them a very low ball offer in a couple of weeks if its still there. Hope evertythings well with you.

Dave

[Dave M]

spend some quality time out in the garage if thats what you want. 1000 sounds a little high to me... I can get non rusty trashed out subies here for that price


The only body rust is on the A pillars. I wish I had a better choice in winter wagons, but she's slim pickins. Houses are cheap though ;)

Thanks again Bill,

Dave