BennyM
08-06-2009, 10:49 AM
Help!
Day 0: Install newerish exhaust system. Start car. Car runs quiet and smooth, but still has annoying whistle/whine (relative to engine RPMs) that it's had for nearly a year. Still suspect minor vacuum leak. Drive car home.
Day 2: Car sits. Reset ECU to clear a lingering 02 sensor code (1221).
Day 3: Drive car to run errands. Once car is near normal operating temp, idle begins to fluctuate. CEL comes on. Idle gets worse and it dies just as I park it. I let car cool down. Run the stomp test: 1222. Suspect that whistling/whining vacuum leak has gotten too big for the engine to handle. Start it. Every thing's fine. I drive it home and as it warms up, it starts hunting for idle again. CEL comes on. The car will die if I don't keep applying gas, but when I apply the gas, it feels and sounds normal. I limp home this way, keeping the RPMs up, rolling stop signs.
Day 4: Take apart everything running into the intake manifold: Throtle bodies (2 because I have ASC), air boot, air filter housing, and the ICV and it's corresponding hoses. I check other vacuum hoses for cracks. The ICV hoses are covered in oil. So, I buy a new connector for the top hose that plugs into the manifold and tighten the clamps on the lower hose. I then tape up the connections with Gorilla tape to temporarily cover any potential leaks. I tape up the air boot as well, which has a long gap on the bottom. Put everything back together. Start the car. The whine is gone, but now the CEL light is on the whole time and it hunts for idle a bit even thought it's halfway warm. If I open the throttle for a moment and then let it settle back to idle, it fluctuates dramatically, almost dying, but after 20-30 seconds it'll even out for the most part and keep running. Idle still gradually deteriorates as the engine warms up. I disconnected the O2 sensor, but that made no difference. I tried spraying hose fittings with carb cleaner. No difference.
Day 5: I've made a list of hoses to order from BMA and I will go out shortly to check the sensors. But I'm concerned that it's not as simple as a hose fitting. And it seems like too big of a coincidence that this happened after I replaced the exhaust system. I mean, i've seen it hunt for idle occasionally, but not to this extreme.
Keeping these symptoms in mind, what should I check next? Could a bad ICV or MAF cause these symptoms? How do I clean the ICV?
I plan to order new intake manifold gaskets along with the hoses too.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=HD53&mospid=47404&btnr=13_0391&hg=13&fg=15
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=HD53&mospid=47404&btnr=11_1124&hg=11&fg=40
Thanks in advance for your input.
BennyM
Day 0: Install newerish exhaust system. Start car. Car runs quiet and smooth, but still has annoying whistle/whine (relative to engine RPMs) that it's had for nearly a year. Still suspect minor vacuum leak. Drive car home.
Day 2: Car sits. Reset ECU to clear a lingering 02 sensor code (1221).
Day 3: Drive car to run errands. Once car is near normal operating temp, idle begins to fluctuate. CEL comes on. Idle gets worse and it dies just as I park it. I let car cool down. Run the stomp test: 1222. Suspect that whistling/whining vacuum leak has gotten too big for the engine to handle. Start it. Every thing's fine. I drive it home and as it warms up, it starts hunting for idle again. CEL comes on. The car will die if I don't keep applying gas, but when I apply the gas, it feels and sounds normal. I limp home this way, keeping the RPMs up, rolling stop signs.
Day 4: Take apart everything running into the intake manifold: Throtle bodies (2 because I have ASC), air boot, air filter housing, and the ICV and it's corresponding hoses. I check other vacuum hoses for cracks. The ICV hoses are covered in oil. So, I buy a new connector for the top hose that plugs into the manifold and tighten the clamps on the lower hose. I then tape up the connections with Gorilla tape to temporarily cover any potential leaks. I tape up the air boot as well, which has a long gap on the bottom. Put everything back together. Start the car. The whine is gone, but now the CEL light is on the whole time and it hunts for idle a bit even thought it's halfway warm. If I open the throttle for a moment and then let it settle back to idle, it fluctuates dramatically, almost dying, but after 20-30 seconds it'll even out for the most part and keep running. Idle still gradually deteriorates as the engine warms up. I disconnected the O2 sensor, but that made no difference. I tried spraying hose fittings with carb cleaner. No difference.
Day 5: I've made a list of hoses to order from BMA and I will go out shortly to check the sensors. But I'm concerned that it's not as simple as a hose fitting. And it seems like too big of a coincidence that this happened after I replaced the exhaust system. I mean, i've seen it hunt for idle occasionally, but not to this extreme.
Keeping these symptoms in mind, what should I check next? Could a bad ICV or MAF cause these symptoms? How do I clean the ICV?
I plan to order new intake manifold gaskets along with the hoses too.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=HD53&mospid=47404&btnr=13_0391&hg=13&fg=15
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=HD53&mospid=47404&btnr=11_1124&hg=11&fg=40
Thanks in advance for your input.
BennyM