4 window 1-touch open / close module - we made it

[shogun]

here our first module in action after the bench test version worked well
http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/694451

[genphreak]

Take is a legend. I think he should be working for BMW, somehow the combination of Japanese electornics and German machines is a combination no auto company ever cracked... until Shogun/Take teamed up. They may not make the big time, but 3 cheers for the guys that are innovating in areas places others have never gone before.

Terrific work Erich, and thanks for the illuminated shift panel. They are simply superb! I must now save up for one of these, assuming Herb accepts my payment for his cupholders :)

[shogun]

here 2 pics of the test bench unit
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=bXcZ8DDMLuQbI8PG5PJjz4h4l5k2TGxc
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=bXcZ8DDMLuQZBvi%2BRC3mOYh4l5k2TGx c

programming took almost the longest time. And of course testing for safety, therefore the beep sounds, different as you can hear. First I thought people might not like the sound, but apparently they like it (first reactions), because it is something special, like the strobo effect on the iluminated gear. Actually the stroby effect lights flashing for that we wanted to add as test program when ignition is switched on, if all gears have contact. Now it is an add on.

[leicesterboy15]

Excellent! I'm in, do you have a list of off the shelf (Shogun style) mods available? Was the gear module manual or auto? What is it exactly?

[shogun]

iluminated gear panel is for automatic only, any automatic transmission, the module will sense which transmission is installed. I only need to know if it is 4-speed or 5-speed, because of the small panel on top.

For manual gears there are the knobs/gandles with ilumination availble in the internet, these I do not sell.
installation instructions on German forum, with delivery you get also a English version
http://www.7-forum.com/forum/24/installation-gangkulisse-ganganzeige-e32-e34-geile-104284.html

and now the one touch module

videos for all here
http://www.youtube.com/profile?gl=DE&hl=de&user=takeE32&view=videos

interior light dimmer for all interior lights, that is one module which is to be installed next to the dome light.
installation instructions on German forum
http://www.7-forum.com/forum/24/dimmermoduleinbau-anleitung-82846.html

SRS/Airbag/Service/Oil/Annual Inspection reset tool which also works on our older cars!
http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39204

[eaglecomm]

Is the beep on/off customizable? Maybe a way to turn it on or off by the end user? Maybe changeable using a series of button presses to 'flip a switch'?

[shogun]

enduser can/could turn it off at his own risk and responsibility, also it is his responsibility when he sells the car or rents out the car etc. Inside the control module there are 4 switches, 1 is for this.
So usually the module is closed and under the center console. It comes with alert buzzer switched on!

[ss2115]

Hi Shogun.

I forgot to ask you if this units still works okay with the key or remote "comfort" windows?
Do they still all go up if the key is held over in the lock?
Will they beep using this method, or only beep when the centre consol buttons are used?

Also - if the individual rear window switches are used to open/close the rear windows, will they also now be "express" or will they only work as before?

best regards,

[shogun]

I forgot to ask you if this units still works okay with the key or remote "comfort" windows?
Do they still all go up if the key is held over in the lock?
Will they beep using this method, or only beep when the centre consol buttons are used?

same procedure as usual with original as far as I know (will reconfirm), as for the question if they are beeping then I have to test, will tell you next week as the car with our test module is on a business trip.


Also - if the individual rear window switches are used to open/close the rear windows, will they also now be "express" or will they only work as before?

NO! Too dangerous, they have to be pushed as original, only the quad switch in center console has the module connected. And the rectangular push button on that switch can still switch off the individual rear door switches installed in the rear door panels. In addition there is a switch inside the module to switch off the function of the rear door switches completely, also for safety reasons.

The whole system is for safety reasons designed in such a way, that the driver has the control.

[shogun]

@leicesterboy15
ss2115 can make you a pic of his gear panel if needed for RHD, he also has it installed on his RHD in Australia.
Yes, the gear which is selected is iluminated, more than the others, which are also iluminated and the brightness changes automatically.
In addition the socalled strobo effect at the beginning when you switch ignition on is to check the function of the gear selector switches, contact yes or not. Kind of on board diagnosis :D
if something wrong for more than 2 seconds, the red LED will show.
Here iluminated gear module, our test module
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teXxXvhzU9U&feature=channel_page
in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF-xlxsi9FY&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6_KD8tZ1_M&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te6otyB8BnA&feature=channel_page
How to install
http://www.7-forum.com/forum/24/installation-gangkulisse-ganganzeige-e32-e34-geile-104284.html

interior light dimmer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSXnbV8nHkE&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZRnhc-buMU&feature=channel_page
how to install
http://www.7-forum.com/forum/24/dimmermoduleinbau-anleitung-82846.html

More than 50 sets each in operation already.
I will send you a PM these days will details about prices.

Exclusive parts for the E34 and E32 owner who wants something special :D

[shogun]

@ss2115
your module will be airmailed tomorrow to the address given to me.
In the final minute we made another program change on the chip:

automatic opening and closing of all 4 windows with one touch:
touch simultaneously with 2 fingers on the 2 front switches on the quad block. First the 2 front windows go down, then the 2 rear windows go down without further need to touch.
Same with up functions, simultaneously close: touch on the 2 front switches, same as above.
To stop any time, just touch any switch and they will stop.
All 4 windows going down at the same time is impossible, as that is over the limit (ampere) of the GM.

So the first batch is gone, some more will be ready this coming weekend hopefully.

To restart then, you have to touch twice, because the first 'order' is not yet executed completely, but that is all in the instructions coming along with the module.

[shogun]

leicesterboy15: Paypal received today. The complete package
1 touch module
interior light dimmer
iluminated gear

will be sent today.

Just today the first installation in Germany was made and he made some short youtubes and also installation instructions, see from post 28 or so
http://www.7-forum.com/forum/5/one-touch-up-down-alle-4-a-121209.html

To enlarge the pics there you might have first to register on the 7-forum

[shogun]

man, that takes time over the big pond, I assume early next week earliest, if your customs officers are quick with processing.

Today I shipped the first one to Finland, owner has an E32.


Still 2 on stock at the moment, have to produce some more on the weekend as people especially from the German 7-forum are asking for that unit.

BTW: for those who get it or already have it:

the external connector inside the module: this is used for starting for all 4 windows open
and close automatically function (remote), not used by front each window switch panel button.

example: if connector number 1 and number 2 close by another switch or used by relay, the unit will work all 4 windows close like front driver and passenger switch close function at same time.

number 3 and number 4 close by another switch or use by relay, the unit will work all 4 windows open.

this mean you don't have to touch anything on window switch module, the funciton can be controlled from another external switch or add on security control open close signal. number 2 and number 4 is 12(-) line, if 12(+) come to this line the functional will start.

but you have to be careful with one thing, this unit activates by window
switch power line. this power line is not activated all time (not HOT line), it works on acceleted time or off acceleted after a few minutes holding power line. If you operate after closing power line, external function doesn't work.

If an owner would like to operate any time, they have to make power assist by relay at same time external switch on.

Hope that is understandable, but you will see when you have the installation manual and the module in your hands.

[shogun]

5 units of the latest version 2.1 just produced, available till stock lasts.

Worldwide price including shipping: EURO 95.50
installation shown here on this japanese site, there you can already see the differneces old<>new version
http://alpinakozou.web.fc2.com/file/costomize2010/20100411a.html

special thanks to Australia for testing the version 2.1 and approving it ;-)

[ss2115]

If anyone is interested, I mounted my module at the end of the centre console behind the black cover plate where the rear seat ashtray goes. I don't have a rear seat ashtray and so there is a great space for this module behind the blanking plate. It also means I only had to pry up the windows switch, unplug the harness and pull enough cable back out from under the console to cut and make the connections.

I don't know if there is enough room if you do have the rear seat ashtray - its worth looking at.

The beep is easier to hear for rear passengers, and about the same volume for front passengers.
It also means that if you were unfortunate enough to have a problemm the module is very easy to access to unplug and use the jumper that Shogun provides. You unplug the module, take the board out, jumper the two looms inside the black box and shove it back inside the console. Then send the board to Shogun for testing and evalutation.

I did have some problems with earlier versions, and Shoguns attention was impecible. Never a moments hesitation to provide a replacement - improving each time.
This last version has proved bulletproof for a long time now.
I love this gadget and use it all the time for all windows and selected windows and locking up etc. Its been my favourite of all Shoguns improvements for my E34-series.

[bubba966]

Is this a plug and play operation? From what I can tell in those pics it looks like no splicing is required, but I can't read Japanese so I don't know for sure.

[ss2115]

Hi Bubba966.

Yes indeed - you do need to cut the BMW harness and solder/spice the module in between.

Shoguns instructions with the module are in english and very easy to follow.
The main thing is to connect the BMW colour coded to the correct corresponding wire in Shoguns module. As stated, his instructions are good and include an easy to follow table for the wires and colours.

The japanese photos in the above link do not actuall show the ease of how this is all accomplished as the photo's are mixed old and new modules.
The new modules have plugs to the board as shown in the last few photos, and the black box is predrilled. I think these instructions are for anyone who is converting from one of the first version modules with soldered wires to the board to the latest version module.

If you buy the latest version, you only need to join the module wires to the corresponding ones in the BMW harness that you cut.
Then also there are some dip switches which allow you to select how you'd like all the windows to go up/down when selected - eg: first front, then moments later the back, or both left side and then moments later the right side etc etc etc. There are a few choices available.

If you cannot follow a wiring code, nor solder/crimp, then get a mate to do it.
It doesn't take long and its a great module being able to auto-express any window in the car from the drivers seat as well as any combination you choose.

[bubba966]

Was looking to not cut any factory wiring. Could easily put it all together, but don't want to cut the harness up at all. I'd like to keep everything in my car either factory or able to easily be made back to factory if I felt like it due to the rarity of it. If this was an inline module that you just plugged in and didn't cut anything I'd most likely go for one.

[shogun]

yes, as ss2115 says above
you do need to cut the BMW harness and solder/spice the module in between

so the unit comes between the switch and the wires. Now the latest version is in such a way, that you can easily disconnect it in emergency, just unplug the module, remove it and plug the supplied (with the unit)+ connected plugs directly, then it is again original set-up.

[ss2115]

Hi again bubba966.

I'm like you in that I always like to be able to reverse things, so I don't install or modify anything unless its easily changed back, or it make such a big improvement to the vehicle in some way that I'd resell it leaving whatever it is installed.

The good thing about Shoguns kit is that if you solder and shrinkwrap the connections as I did, the only time anyone would see it is if they pulled the entire centre console out.

Secondly, Shoguns kit comes with a neat little joiner which you keep in the glovebox. If the window module stopped working for any reason, or if you didn't want to sell the car with the non-standard express windows, then you open the little module box, unplug the two plugs that go to Shoguns board and remove the board, then you plug the two plugs together using the little joiner and the harness is returned to exactly the same as it was pre-module.

But I'm betting the express module will help sell the car anyway and you wouldn't do this.
Its not a huge change to the car like changing the dashboard over to blue LED's or anything like that - it just adds a little convenience in being able to touch any of the four window buttons and have the window express down or express up on its own without having to hold the button down.
And to open/close all the windows with a quick press is a nice feature as well - especially getting into a hot car thats been parked in the sun.
These days most buyers expect that sort of convenience in a new car anyway, so to find it in a car of >10 years old doesn't actually cause them to question it. In fact on a BMW, Merc, Audi etc they would still mostly expect it.



Was looking to not cut any factory wiring. Could easily put it all together, but don't want to cut the harness up at all. I'd like to keep everything in my car either factory or able to easily be made back to factory if I felt like it due to the rarity of it. If this was an inline module that you just plugged in and didn't cut anything I'd most likely go for one.

[bubba966]

yes, as ss2115 says above
you do need to cut the BMW harness and solder/spice the module in between

so the unit comes between the switch and the wires. Now the latest version is in such a way, that you can easily disconnect it in emergency, just unplug the module, remove it and plug the supplied (with the unit)+ connected plugs directly, then it is again original set-up.

If I got hold of a parts car would there be some way to make some kind of adapter so that your module could be used without cutting the wiring harness?

Even though I've got no intention of ever selling my car, I've got absolutely zero interest in cutting & splicing my factory harness. But if I could use the stuff from another car's factory harness to make adapters to avoid cutting/splicing then I'd give it a go.

Unfortunately I can't quite tell where in the harness the module would get spliced in so I'm not sure what would be needed to make adapters if it's at all possible. Actually I'm quite sure I could make whatever I'd need to do it if I knew what I'd need to do it.

[ss2115]

Even given a parts car, it would be hugely messy to do it the way you propose for several reasons.
The OEM plugs that go to the windows switch are large and chunky and odd shaped because they plug directly to pins sticking out of the bottom of the windows switch - ie: they are not a neat inline plug that connects with a conventional male or female inline plug say for example like the plugs to the back of the dashboard or the OBC or something similar where you might be lucky enough to find a matching inline plug and solder to its pins.

Even if you could, you'd have a really large join of two very awkward plugs, which you would have to somehow situate down the back of the console where there is room, and then have a quite long added loom section up to the windows switch where you'd have put another set of identical chunky plugs to connect to the bottom of the windows switch again.
Very messy!
*Pry up your windows switch and have a quick look at the two chunky plugs and you'll instantly see what I mean.

Shoguns looms are very neat small inline plugs that can plug to his board, or plug inline to each other using his supplied joiner.
His board sits in a neat little jiffy box. The box is predrilled with grommets - not like the Japanese photos he has provided in the last link. The jiffy box can sit neatly in a number of places under the console or under the gearstick surround.

You cut about seven wires, and insert the the module between the break - its so simple.

[shogun]

some videos
alpinakozou&#39;s Channel - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/alpinakozou#p/u/4/yEOgqk-N19Q)
alpinakozou&#39;s Channel - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/alpinakozou#p/u/5/tY6qC1yxBbw)
alpinakozou&#39;s Channel - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/alpinakozou#p/u/6/OV2FfosPniA)
how to install
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new ones on stock

[shogun]

new youtubes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY6qC1yxBbw&lr=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV2FfosPniA&lr=1
takeE32&#39;s Channel - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=takeE32#p/u/29/Oz02uHWlZYk)
installation
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[Rick L]

Finally found some time today to installed Shogun's windows control unit. Works great. Thanks Shogun. Only gripe was that the wires are too short so I needed to extend the overall length. 12" (300mm) longer would have nice since there is no place to put the control module within reach of the wires under E34 center console. Also, there were few mistakes in wire colors in the user install instruction but that was easy to figure out.

http://iccrents.com/ICC/Driver/24/18.jpg

[Rick L]

I only have one other picture. It is the placement of the windows control module (back end of center console just below the rear vent). I spliced the wires just below the window switch. And I needed to extend the wires from the windows control module to where I spliced the wires by 12" (300mm).

http://iccrents.com/ICC/Driver/24/20.jpg



Great, that you finally installed it and that it works. Can you do us the favor and make some more pics which show where you exactly connected the wires so that it is easier to understand for the others to install.
THANKS!

[shogun]

I understand, you made it like ss2115 in Australia and installed the module not close to the window switch but at the rear of the console.

http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/attachments/5-series-bmw/7238d1287438202-4-window-1-touch-open-close-module-we-made-p6070052.jpg
http://www.bimmernut.com/forum/5-series-bmw/41832-4-window-1-touch-open-close-module-we-made-5.html#post336664

[Rick L]

I understand, you made it like ss2115 in Australia and installed the module not close to the window switch but at the rear of the console.


Yes. There is no space to place the module near the window switch in E34. Rear of the console is the best option.

[Rick L]

Rick, can you tell us what was different on your car with wire colors and what was in the user install instruction?
It may be that is caused by built year or country version, but better we have it here in writing, so that it is easier for others to know where to look after when they install it. Also please mention the production date and month of your car.
Thanks a lot.

Not sure if I still have the install instruction. It's been a while. I think I'll remember which ones if I see the diagram again.

[shogun]

Just shipped the last module on stock to an E32 750 owner.
Is there any more interest in the module? If so, please post here, so that we can make some more. Takes a while to order all the electronic parts and produce them.
Price of the module shipped by small air package is EURO 95.50.
see www.oanda.com for exchange rates into your currency.

[TechnoWeeny]

Nice Mod you have developed there Shogun. The mod I'd like to do to both of my BMW's 1995 E34 540i and 2006 E90 330i is to be able to have the front fog lights on as daytime lights running through the daylight running light switch. This would save having to use the BiXeon headlights (expensive to replace) yet still have the convenience and safety of daylight lights auto and off when the car is started. What are the chances you'd be developing something like that?

[shogun]

There is not much interest in this, everyone makes his own version daytime running light. In U.K. they had a daytime running light already in the old E32:
FOR VEHICLES WITH NATIONAL VERSION GREAT BRITAIN Y736A=YES 06 RESISTOR "CONTINIOUS DIM LIGHT" 161131382366
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=GB81&mospid=47352&btnr=61_0562&hg=61&fg=25&hl=52
Here is one example http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/427817