The long awaited door strap reinforcement plates are finished

[Kibokojoe]

Ok guys the stainless steel plates are done. I have polished a couple so you can see. I have already installed one on my sons 735i, nice fit. I only have 49 plates left and I don't know when I will be able to get more made because all of my funds are going to finish my 2 car garage. First come first serve. I need to go tomorrow and find out how much for shipping. Once I know the shipping I will set up a PayPal page on my web site so you guys can purchase them. All said and done $9.00 a plate plus shipping.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/kibokojoe/plategroup.jpg

[shogun]

I linked that also on Bimmerboard if someone needs them there
http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/706441

[ss2115]

Ok guys the stainless steel plates are done. I have polished a couple so you can see. I have already installed one on my sons 735i, nice fit. I only have 49 plates left and I don't know when I will be able to get more made because all of my funds are going to finish my 2 car garage. First come first serve. I need to go tomorrow and find out how much for shipping. Once I know the shipping I will set up a PayPal page on my web site so you guys can purchase them. All said and done $9.00 a plate plus shipping.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/kibokojoe/plategroup.jpg

What about us people that already said we'd order them earlier this year when you first mentioned them? Are you putting any aside for us. I think Kris was interested also.

[shogun]

looks like you get new customers also from here, someone just mentioned that he is depressed now as he just inspected his doors and found cracks ;)
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1309221

ss2115:
just send Joe a PN and ask fopr the Paypal account and shipping cost to AUS and give him the shipping address. For that low sales price I would even add the Paypal fee they will deduct from Joe's account when he get's money via Paypal from overseas.

[Kibokojoe]

Yes absolutely you will get your plates. I have sent PM's (or at least I have tried :)) to all who have asked for plates and am waiting their responses. These plates have taken a while to get made, so I understand if some of you have either made the repair already or have changed their mind. Right now I have orders for 22 plates, that is if no one has changed their mind. So that leaves 17 plates to go.

[Kibokojoe]

Yeah put one of the plates on my son's 7 last night and noticed that there was a small crack. I think most people will find, especially on the drivers door, that there are hair line cracks in the metal. If these sell well, perhaps I can talk to the manufacture about giving me a 90 day term so I will have time to pay him.

[yaofeng]

I wonder if making the plate with stainless steel stock is not making corrosion worse because of galvanic action. The stainless steel plate will not rust. But the carbon steel bolts used to fasten the plate to the door will see rust very soon. If you use stainless steel bolts, then rust on the carbon steel door sheet metal panel in contact with the bolt will be accelerated. Perhaps primed plain carbon steel plate is a better choice. That area of the car will not see persistent moisture.

One example of this galvanic action on our car is the fuel line hold down clips under the body. The clips are plastic with a stainless sheet metal cover fastened by a carbon steel screw. The screw in contect with stainless steel is typically very rusted. The fuel line near the hold down is also very rusted because part of it is in contact with the stainless steel cover.

[Kibokojoe]

I guess you could go either way but no matter which material you use there will be fatigue in the door. For me the choice was stainless. Everyone who asked for these plates requested stainless steel so thats what I made them from. Don't have any plans on making them from carbon and painting them. One thing I will add to my write up is to use thread lock, no matter what metal is used this helps to protect the threads.

[Shayne]

Actually Stainless 302, 303, 304, 316, 317, 321, and 347 (304 and 316 being the most common) are actually quite passive. You will have no concerns with regards to galvanic corrosion if you used one of these to produce the parts.
In order to induce galvanic corrosion you do need an electrolyte. In vehicles this would usually be water contaminated with Calcium Chloride aka road salt. Since there is little chance of this contacting the door hinges it is a pretty safe bet these will not fail as a result of corrosion in the next 200 years ;-)
To absolutely guarantee that the part does not corrode or cause corrosion you can 'pickle' it by dipping the parts in nitric acid. This removes all contaminants and activates the chromium barrier.

[tim eh?]

just in time for winter maintenance - nice work! ... PM sent!

[Kibokojoe]

It will take you like 15 minutes per door and that is if you take your time. While I had the screws and boot off I cleaned and polished all of the mating surfaces. Don't want any dirt under that plate :). Don't know if you have had the restraining strap off before but I used a flat round punch to remove the pin. Once I had the pin out I used the punch through the hole in the restraining strap to keep it from falling inside the door once the screws were removed.

[tim eh?]

It will take you like 15 minutes per door and that is if you take your time. While I had the screws and boot off I cleaned and polished all of the mating surfaces. Don't want any dirt under that plate :). Don't know if you have had the restraining strap off before but I used a flat round punch to remove the pin. Once I had the pin out I used the punch through the hole in the restraining strap to keep it from falling inside the door once the screws were removed.


perfect - I have the panel off on one side which should cut the install time down a couple of minutes give me time for a smoke break halfway through :D I was serious about the good timing - another month and they'd go on in the spring.

[Kibokojoe]

I mounted mine on the outside of the door so I didn't have to remove the panel, but inside would be a cleaner look

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/kibokojoe/outsidemounting-1.jpg


I will have a heated garage in about a month so I can work through the winter ;)

[shogun]

direct link to order from Joe online
http://www.freewebs.com/kibokojoe/bmwdoorplates.htm

[Kibokojoe]

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/kibokojoe/finaldoorstopillustration.jpg

[ss2115]

Yes absolutely you will get your plates. I have sent PM's (or at least I have tried :)) to all who have asked for plates and am waiting their responses. These plates have taken a while to get made, so I understand if some of you have either made the repair already or have changed their mind. Right now I have orders for 22 plates, that is if no one has changed their mind. So that leaves 17 plates to go.

Hi.
I haven't had a PM from you but wish 2 x plates sent to Sydney, Australia. Can you advise cost etc and PayPal.
ss2115

[shogun]

Joe, you have to add the Paypal button on your website so that people can place the order there
http://www.freewebs.com/kibokojoe/bmwdoorplates.htm
you have that on the Yamaha horn page, but no one will check there for a paypal connection
http://www.freewebs.com/kibokojoe/

[Kibokojoe]

Take a look and let me know


Joe, you have to add the Paypal button on your website so that people can place the order there
http://www.freewebs.com/kibokojoe/bmwdoorplates.htm
you have that on the Yamaha horn page, but no one will check there for a paypal connection
http://www.freewebs.com/kibokojoe/

[shogun]

wow, now all is in there.

[shogun]

Joe: do you intend to make some more for sale?

[Russell]

Nice. I already have plates on both front doors. A plate fixed my driver's door as it was cracking. IMO get them before you have an issue.

[Kibokojoe]

No there isn't enough demand

[BigKriss]

I installed these plates a few years ago with new door stops. Can't believe there's not enough demand for them. they are cheap!

[shogun]

In Germany someone is making them, they are selling like hot cake there, there MUST be a demand also in other countries

[genphreak]

Nice. I already have plates on both front doors. A plate fixed my driver's door as it was cracking. IMO get them before you have an issue.Hmmm. You know pics make a post 10,000 times better... ;)

[genphreak]

I installed these plates a few years ago with new door stops. Can't believe there's not enough demand for them. they are cheap!Pics? Kris... pics!! ;-)

[Erich M.]

I also installed the plates on my front doors. The driver's door was already cracking and I had hoped that the plate would keep things in check. It didn't work out that way and the door continued to squeak and groan when moved. I finally just pulled the pin on the door stop to mitigate the damage. No more sounds from the door! I know that this isn't the answer because if a gust of wind or something pulls the door open, I'm in a world of hurt. The only way out of this that I can see, is to get the cracks welded and then continue to use the door reinforcing plates. I live in sunny So Cal so for the time being, I'm just going without a door brake on the driver's side.

[632 Regal]

Can't you put one on the inside of the door also? My door is real messed up but someone did some sort of ugly fix and painted it so I can't really see what they did and I thought of maybe cutting it out and putting plates on both sides. Not sure if it's even possible.


I also installed the plates on my front doors. The driver's door was already cracking and I had hoped that the plate would keep things in check. It didn't work out that way and the door continued to squeak and groan when moved. I finally just pulled the pin on the door stop to mitigate the damage. No more sounds from the door! I know that this isn't the answer because if a gust of wind or something pulls the door open, I'm in a world of hurt. The only way out of this that I can see, is to get the cracks welded and then continue to use the door reinforcing plates. I live in sunny So Cal so for the time being, I'm just going without a door brake on the driver's side.

[shogun]

As far as I know, yes, someone on the German forum mentioned glueing the metal is better than rivets or screws, or both, 2K-glue plus screws. In case Joe has no interest to built more, maybe you ansk cvandewater,
http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/883695
pics from Germany
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[bimmer nut]

8028

I have one for someone that needs it. All I ask is that YOU really need it for YOUR car. PM me.

Prefer to ship USPS in USA.

[John B.]

There's nothing complicated about the plates. Anyone with a jig saw & drill press could fabricate their own plates. I've kept the door straps well lubed on our 535i & have had no issues with cracking.