Over steer on right turns

[632 Regal]

Over steer on right turns after 55mph. Had a rear tire repaired and figured a pressure issue, nothing big but corrected a couple ponds of air. No unusual tire wear or strange noises either. I have not got it in the air yet but does anyone have a clue?

My guess is the dog bones but not sure what they even do back there. I replaced them a year or 2 ago with FCP (****ing crappy parts) and they looked like **** in weeks, this is why I think they are suspect. Shocks seem fine as do the sway bars and links but... have not phisically looked at them yet.

Any clues greatly appreciated!!

TIA

[Tiger]

Most likely is the rear pitman arm problem. Same deal over here... I got to swap them out with Lemforders asap.

[632 Regal]

Most likely is the rear pitman arm problem. Same deal over here... I got to swap them out with Lemforders asap.

Pitman arm = dogbones?

Makes brutal sense to me.

[Tiger]

Yep on dogbone.

There is one other possibility... bad shock absorber... when rear shock absorber go bad, upon making a right turn on wet or icy road, the rear end will slide out... oversteering.

Bounce test for shock absorber doesn't tell you anything anymore on modern cars. You have to physically remove the shock absorber, remove the spring and check the action of the shock absorber shaft...

[Blitzkrieg Bob]

RTABs, subframe mounts, although unlikely could also be a suspect.

I have some famous Hamburg Tech Dogbones in my 525 and they seem to be ok after three years... Cheap and easy to replace... 10 minutes with a rattle gun.

[632 Regal]

RTABs, subframe mounts, although unlikely could also be a suspect.

I have some famous Hamburg Tech Dogbones in my 525 and they seem to be ok after three years... Cheap and easy to replace... 10 minutes with a rattle gun.

K cool, as soon as I sell some stuff Ill try the new dog-bones, That FCP is serious garbage, C'mon 3 weeks and they spew the juice all over? I am going to start here as nothing changed extrodinarily from normal to fvcked overday.

remember overday?

http://www.theghoul.com/index2.html

click memories on left

[Tiger]

I bought my Hamburg Tech based on you (I think)... garbage in a couple of months.

[Tiger]

Rockauto has Moog Rear Pitman Arm for $30.79 each... cool deal.

[Blitzkrieg Bob]

I bought my Hamburg Tech based on you (I think)... garbage in a couple of months.


Not on me.... I would have told that they are crap, and wouldn,t last... I only used them because they were silly cheap ($30 for both) and an easy part to replace.

[Tiger]

I meant that someone on the forum mentioned about being okay.. and yes it was cheap... but not good. It is possible on my car that the subframe bushing might be the reason it is no good.

[Blitzkrieg Bob]

bad subframe mount/bushings will give you the butt steering or crab walk feel in and out of turns as well and in real bad cases also produces a clunking noise.

[Tiger]

How about groaning noises as you go up the hill?

[Blitzkrieg Bob]

How about groaning noises as you go up the hill?

that sounds like drive line bearings or universals

[Tiger]

mmm... now I am confused... I heard alot of clicking and clacking.... and rubbery groaning creaks and croaks as going up a long hill...

[Blitzkrieg Bob]

mmm... now I am confused... I heard alot of clicking and clacking.... and rubbery groaning creaks and croaks as going up a long hill...

If its the rubbery bits then you should also hear them on hard acceleration, hard stops and hard cornering too.

[Tiger]

No... we were creeping up the hill at about like 4 MPH... to hear it... at faster speed... no super loud sounds... we do hear the clicking noises... which is definitely dogbones.

[genphreak]

Diff Oil? You can always use an additive if the diff bearings are 'not yet worth doing'... LOL! I did this with one that I swapped in (with the subframe assy recently). The diff hadn't been used for a while and was stood up so all the oil came out.

After installing it, some really nasty noises occurred turning corners. Once warming up (after 1/2 a mile) it sounded like the clutch sounded like it was gone. Driveline noises are very subjective... anyway, we ended up putting in some diff oil additive in.

It's not made a noise since.

[Tiger]

I am planning on changing the diff oil.... got all the supply already.