Bleeping sons of bleepers. (big pics, 56k beware)

[Phil M]

I parked my car in my church parking lot for a week because I've had some threats that some kids would vandalize my car. I had to leave for 5 days during so I couldnt keep it at home and watch out my window for them. Let the church know and everything beforehand and when I went to get her this is what I found.

I've busted my balls trying to keep this car in good condition and have for the year I've had her and right as I'm planning to sell, this **** happens. Ugh.

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[Unregistered]

Why would someone want to vandalize your car? Did you do something to these kids?

[Phil M]

Well my best friend's car (98 trans am) his old car (98 grand prix GTP) and his moms trailblazer each were vandalized. egged, toilet paper, bologna. thankfully his dad leaves work at 6am and found it before it could do anymore paint damage. He found out who did it and come to find out they vandalized his cars cause his ex girlfriend told her psycho ass brother that he cheated on her, which he undoubtfully didnt. It wasnt even a big deal when he found out that she told her brother that. Before his car got vandalized, he contacted her brother and told him that if he had a problem with him to confront him face to face and Dallas (my friend) said that the guy would "get him some other way because hes too young to physically hurt." We thought the kid was just bluffing. but a few days later dallas called me and told me what I just stated up there about his cars. I then got really upset and called this kid and told him he was an "ignorant piece of trash who has no respect for other peoples property". he replied "you had better watch your car as well."

maybe i shouldnt have said anything but i couldnt let this just go, especially since dallas has helped me out in similar situations before.


Why would someone want to vandalize your car? Did you do something to these kids?

[hdaemon]

Sounds to me like you ought to be contacting either the police, this brats parents, or both. While you wouldn't want to provoke him to do anything more, if you've got any reasonable amount of proof that he did it, I'd get the cops involved. Maybe some juvenile deliquency charges and being forced to pay for the damages will help turn the kid around a bit. And if not, maybe his parents will (I'm presuming from what you said that the kid is under 18). Things like this make me wish it were a valid legal option to beat the crap out of the offender. Vindictive vandalism is one of the lowest forms of crime, and it sounds like this kid could use to have repercussions for his actions. That or a good stint in a state penitentiary

[Unregistered]

That sucks! You should rent one of those spy video cameras from spy rental places. Catch them in action!!! Then contact the police with video evidence and sue their parents for damages. One of my friends did the same thing with his Mustang. Some jerk keep parking at his assigned parking space and one day he told him off. Well, he start getting keyed so he rented a spy video camera from spy shop and got him doing the key job. That guy got hit with fines and was sued by my friend and all the damages. I think my buddy added few things here and there but serves him right!

[Phil M]

Well, I cant be 100% sure that it was them. They live on the opposite end of town and I hadnt told anyone where I parked it, not my parents.. not dallas. Parked it and walked home. It was even hidden from the road behind a row of tall bushes. He easily said that he did that to my friends car, but completely denies having anything to do with my vandalism. The kid is 22-23, thats why he wouldnt fight dallas.. cause he's 17. Thats why he said he would get him some other way or whatever. The police probably couldnt do anything cause all I have is a threat and the fact that I moved my car w/o telling anybody..

[632 Regal]

that just sucks!

[Unregistered]

I firmly believe in karma....That guy will get whats coming to him.....a foot up his ass!!

[Mike M]

wow. i'm sorry to hear about that :(

it's definitely a huge concern for me too being on a college campus and drunks running around all the time. who knows if they'd wander into the garage and mess with my car.

i hope you find the people responsible.

[tim s]

i went to creation festival this weekend. i parked next to a new play ground & some little kids left sand all over the hood of my 540i/a. the only way to keep a car perfect is to park it in a garage & not drive it anywhere but in your drive way.
tim s.

[Kennan]

Wow and to think, I'm afraid of just getting keyed.

If you have enemies, they need to be taken care of one way or another. What if you get the car repaired then you find it worse condition the next day?

If you can't do anything legally, then you should, well at least I would, take action into my own hands. A lot of times, when someone's car is damaged, they have no idea who it is. Your lucky enough to know who did this to your car and I say you take advantage of it.

[Unregistered]

If you take retribution on the suspect (how would he have known where to find your car?), with or without absolute proof, HE would then have a very good suspect of his own--you. In that case, you may find yourself in hot water legally and ethically for exacting revenge on him, even though he is not recessarily the culprit in the damage to your car. Therefore, for practical and ethical reasons, the best course may be to let this pass.

This sounds wimpy, but consider this: At work, stuff in my unlocked office turned up vandalized or missing. I began to suspect various co-workers and pondered their motives, and to consider similar retribution. This made of an unhealthy job environment, frought with suspicion and anger, including the anger & resentment of those few who probably knew they were suspected. Later, we discovered that some juvenile delinquents got their thrills by slipping into offices at ~5:30 on workdays after workers went home but before the office was locked. In other words, my suspicions were misplaced, and no apology to co-workers could ever completely erase their hurt and anger at being wrongly suspected.

Not a very satisfying answer, but may be worth considering before you risk trouble by going after your suspect without absolute proof.

[rickm]

Not a very satisfying answer, but may be worth considering before you risk trouble by going after your suspect without absolute proof.

But it's a mature answer.

[1992 BMW 535i]

You can get a motion sensor and hook it to the lights and camera...

[MicahO]

Sorry for the trouble Phil. The bad guys, whoever they were, knew where to hit. That really sucks.

I edited the title. We don't have many restrictions here, it's not a family site, but......

[Phil M]

...they need to be taken care of one way or another. What if you get the car repaired then you find it worse condition the next day?

...Your lucky enough to know who did this to your car and I say you take advantage of it.
Therefore, for practical and ethical reasons, the best course may be to let this pass. I definately see both your points and undoubtfully considered both. A big part of me just wants to go over to wherever this kid is and just go to town on him. But for the simple fact that the car was moved w/o me telling a single person about it cept the chruch, I dont have any evidence that he and his posse did anything. And to be truthful to myself, I cant see how it's even possible that he could have found it. I sorta wish I had left it at my house and set up a camera. I just thought at the time it would be best to park it somewhere else than have to deal with the legality of something like this, especially since i was trying to sell her before college. Going to court and getting my repremands (sp?) would have taken too long. Life goes on. Now that I'm 18 I guess this is a great way of telling me that not all people in the world are decent, respectable people (like I had innocently thought as i was growing up) and that I should be more careful of my actions and how they effect others. I'm gonna have to let it pass and pay for this out of pocket (wish someone would help me and purchase my wharfedales (http://www.bimmer.info/forum/showthread.php?t=4696)!).

I guess I'm with this guy:

I firmly believe in karma....That guy will get whats coming to him.....a foot up his ass!!

[Phil M]

Thanks, after a while I resented that title. I didnt know you could edit them? I thought you could just edit the posts? Guess I learn something everyday.


Sorry for the trouble Phil. The bad guys, whoever they were, knew where to hit. That really sucks.

I edited the title. We don't have many restrictions here, it's not a family site, but......
That kinda leads me to the next question.. how big of a job is it to fix that pillar? That bend right there.. gosh dammit

[MicahO]

Thanks, after a while I resented that title. I didnt know you could edit them? I thought you could just edit the posts? Guess I learn something everyday.


That kinda leads me to the next question.. how big of a job is it to fix that pillar? That bend right there.. gosh dammit

I think it's something that's going to have to be filled and reshaped. Not something that can be effectively pressed back to shape, and not really a part you can effectively replace. Compound bends like that are tough.

[Phil M]

Is that something that most bodyshops can do or ? What do they fill it with exactly? The guy that my dad goes to for his jaguar dings and stuff says that if he can get behind anything, he can fix it. Guess I'll have to check with him. What about the roof?

Thanks again guys for ya'lls help and support


I think it's something that's going to have to be filled and reshaped. Not something that can be effectively pressed back to shape, and not really a part you can effectively replace. Compound bends like that are tough.

[rickm]

I had a 4x4 fall on a vehicle corner once and they fixed it, it's not too hard for a good body person. You have insurance for a reason.

Do you have a garage you could have parked it in? The thing about "hiding" your vehicle is that they could have spotted you turning into the church lot.

[Boggie1688]

Its really not that hard to find a car even when u hide it really well....My friends and I play chase in our cars at nite....usually 3 cars...my 525i, my friends honda accord v6, and a c230. One guy drives off and hides anywhere in the city...and the other to have to find him...and get within 5 feet of his car. Games hell fun...cuz usually u'll find the car in 20 - 30 mins...and the person will book it...and its just like a mad game of chase in cars....yea yea we know its dangerous....one nite...the c230 made a 90 degree right hand turn onto a small road...doing 50mph just right after passing a car in the left hand lane....he took the turn WAY to fast...and I looked up in my mirror and i see him coming flying around the corner...and all of a sudden it looks like he jerked on the wheel...turned out the car slammed against the sidewalk...big huge hunk of the rim was gone...nice AMG ones too...all the air bags had deployed in the car....and all the suspension was tweak...he had the car fixed in a month...cost him 11K but...he could careless...lucky son of a bitch also has a 2003 7454i 2003 525i and 3 days ago he just got a RX330....but still...that was the craziest crash I had ever seen...sry I got side tracked...but my point is...bored as hell teenagers in a small town...will do anything for thrills...and looking for a car easily kills time...but then again I'm not saying it was the teens...never know you could have just parked under a tree that abnormally grew REALLY REALLY HUGE HUGE pinecones... :)

[Robin-535im]

That is a pooper of a situation. I don't have any helpful wisdom other than that.

I feel for you man.

- Robin

[Unregistered]

Phil,

I know EXACTLY how you feel, because that's how I felt when my office got trashed, and personal items including wedding gifts from my wife were stolen.

At the time, I'd figured the suspects down to a short list of two co-workers with whom there'd been some prior friction, and I was ready to kick BOTH of their asses with little or no further provocation. Lost a lot of sleep over it, and significant billable hours at work, so there was damage beyond the specific loss of the items trashed or stolen from my office. In these situations, one can drive oneself nuts with worry. Or, as they say, paranoia will destroy ya.

But, what if I HAD taken one or both of my suspected (but actually innocent) co-workers apart? Loss of job, jail time, resitution to them, etc., ad infinitum. All because I nearly jumped to the wrong and/or unprovable conclusion. Even with solid proof against the culprit, we still don't have the right to seek "street justice" or extra-legal sanctions.

In your sit'n., maybe the best thing is to call your ex-girlfriend and tell her you did not cheat, and that you're truly sorry if she was hurt by that misapprehension. Ask her out again, and drive the damaged Bimmer on the date. Study her reaction to seeing it, and listen her comments about the whole affair. Futher, at an appropriate moment, tell her that when your car was trashed, and in your anguish and pain over that, you even thought the vandalism may have had something to do with the breakup, but that your'e sorry to have ever even thought such a thing of her or her kin. Study her reaction carefully--there may be cues as to her involvement (or not). At the least, you may defuse any further vandalism. Or, you may get lucky and hear some inciminating news. It's a long shot, but either way (as the Godfather said), it's best to keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

[Phil M]

thank ya for your great advice.. it's well taken :)

a side note: its not my girlfriend that started this whole thing. its my friend Dallas' girlfriend. She thought he cheated on her and told her brother and he threatened Dallas. Eggs, bologna, and TP'ed his 2 cars, and his mothers. I found out, got pissed, said a few words to the girls brother, he threatened me, i moved car for a week and then come to find that. Great idea though.. maybe I'll have Dallas try that.


Phil,

I know EXACTLY how you feel, because that's how I felt when my office got trashed, and personal items including wedding gifts from my wife were stolen.

At the time, I'd figured the suspects down to a short list of two co-workers with whom there'd been some prior friction, and I was ready to kick BOTH of their asses with little or no further provocation. Lost a lot of sleep over it, and significant billable hours at work, so there was damage beyond the specific loss of the items trashed or stolen from my office. In these situations, one can drive oneself nuts with worry. Or, as they say, paranoia will destroy ya.

But, what if I HAD taken one or both of my suspected (but actually innocent) co-workers apart? Loss of job, jail time, resitution to them, etc., ad infinitum. All because I nearly jumped to the wrong and/or unprovable conclusion. Even with solid proof against the culprit, we still don't have the right to seek "street justice" or extra-legal sanctions.

In your sit'n., maybe the best thing is to call your ex-girlfriend and tell her you did not cheat, and that you're truly sorry if she was hurt by that misapprehension. Ask her out again, and drive the damaged Bimmer on the date. Study her reaction to seeing it, and listen her comments about the whole affair. Futher, at an appropriate moment, tell her that when your car was trashed, and in your anguish and pain over that, you even thought the vandalism may have had something to do with the breakup, but that your'e sorry to have ever even thought such a thing of her or her kin. Study her reaction carefully--there may be cues as to her involvement (or not). At the least, you may defuse any further vandalism. Or, you may get lucky and hear some inciminating news. It's a long shot, but either way (as the Godfather said), it's best to keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

[632 Regal]

awesome statement!!!



it's best to keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

[Unregistered]

Well, I figure that person did the damage, or he didn't. If he did, as of now you can't prove it, so can't justify retribution. Perhaps your best shot is to try and catch more flies with honey than vinegar, as suggested in my earlier post. This may defuse the tension, sparing your car further damage. If you're lucky, and in fact the guy did the damage, you might find out and even get enough testimony and/or evidence to nail his sorry ass with a great big hammer.

[e34]

Park your car in front of your car, get allot of coffee and wait with a fully auto AK-47 and just wait until they come and shoot their legs off. That will teach them a lesson. Or if its too riskey then just wait with a camera and a bat or some kind of handgun. Just my 2 cents.

[Reidal]

Damn and bugger.

Talking of Karma

Electrician friend of mine had a Kawasaki years ago and used to park it in his back yard. Kept loosing pieces off it night after night.

Ran a mains extension cord out to it.

Never lost another part.

(note: don't try this at home folks, here they call it a "man trap" and it is seriously frowned upon for some reason)