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dunderchief
11-20-2004, 12:37 PM
Hi there,

I've been trying to sell my car for a couple months now. I recently listed it in autotrader, and 2 days after it listed I received an email from an individual expressing interest. We've corresponded several times, and finally came to a mutual price agreement. Then I got this email:

> How are you today, i just finished talking with the buyer as he's currently
> out of town and like the saying every car has it's owner. well am glad to
> tell you he has accepted your price, however he hopes the BMW is just as you
> described, with the oil changed, tyres still new and generally in good shape.
> However he said the payment will be in a cashier's cheque to the tone of
> $10,750 which was previously issued out by him just last week for the
> previous vehicle i told about he wanted but unfortunately turned out not to
> be as the seller said it was at the pick-up day. So the cheque since being
> more than your price will now cover for both your price, shipping charges and
> any other bills from this transaction.
> So you are required upon cashing the check, to deduct your price $6,000 and
> send the remaining $4,750 overdraft to the shipping agency he intends using
> via money-gram or western union, so as to enable offset their bills, shipping
> charges and arrangements.
>
> Once the transaction is concluded, the agent will be coming for the pick up
> of the BMW from its present location on an open vehicle and then drive to a
> pre-paid shipper for shipment, and also conclude other necessary shipping
> arrangements. so you don't have to bother yourself about the pick up and
> shipping arrangements, while title papers and other necessary documets will
> be signed and taken care of by the agent.
>
> So please Confirm this and provide name, address and phone number for check
> payment to be delivered to you via courier services.
>
> Charles....
> NB: please get back to me immdiately so that we can wrap this up & feel free
> to ask me any questions.


This email to me bears a striking resemblance to some of the scams I've seen on the internet. Is there a way I can protect myself from ending up without a car and without any money, cause I definately don't want that. Thanks a lot.

-Steve

Stewart E
11-20-2004, 01:11 PM
Hi there,

I've been trying to sell my car for a couple months now. I recently listed it in autotrader, and 2 days after it listed I received an email from an individual expressing interest. We've corresponded several times, and finally came to a mutual price agreement. Then I got this email:

> How are you today, i just finished talking with the buyer as he's currently
> out of town and like the saying every car has it's owner. well am glad to
> tell you he has accepted your price, however he hopes the BMW is just as you
> described, with the oil changed, tyres still new and generally in good shape.
> However he said the payment will be in a cashier's cheque to the tone of
> $10,750 which was previously issued out by him just last week for the
> previous vehicle i told about he wanted but unfortunately turned out not to
> be as the seller said it was at the pick-up day. So the cheque since being
> more than your price will now cover for both your price, shipping charges and
> any other bills from this transaction.
> So you are required upon cashing the check, to deduct your price $6,000 and
> send the remaining $4,750 overdraft to the shipping agency he intends using
> via money-gram or western union, so as to enable offset their bills, shipping
> charges and arrangements.
>
> Once the transaction is concluded, the agent will be coming for the pick up
> of the BMW from its present location on an open vehicle and then drive to a
> pre-paid shipper for shipment, and also conclude other necessary shipping
> arrangements. so you don't have to bother yourself about the pick up and
> shipping arrangements, while title papers and other necessary documets will
> be signed and taken care of by the agent.
>
> So please Confirm this and provide name, address and phone number for check
> payment to be delivered to you via courier services.
>
> Charles....
> NB: please get back to me immdiately so that we can wrap this up & feel free
> to ask me any questions.


This email to me bears a striking resemblance to some of the scams I've seen on the internet. Is there a way I can protect myself from ending up without a car and without any money, cause I definately don't want that. Thanks a lot.

-Steve

Johntee540
11-20-2004, 01:35 PM
This is a classic scam. There are several websites out there dedicated to scamming the scammers. I think this is called the 407 Scam or something like that. It is a problem as it plays on peoples basic sense of greed.

One guy in Philadelphia lost $10,000. and a new Lexus LS400 that shipped out of the country before he figured out it was a problem.

Steer wide right of these guys - JT

Sweetwater
11-20-2004, 02:38 PM
YES

632 Regal
11-20-2004, 03:01 PM
saw these many times.

all2kool
11-20-2004, 06:24 PM
I have collected two checks - both counterfeit - in the last 6 months for a 260Z and a Porsche I have sold. This is a classic scam and if you are dumb-assed enough to fall for it you deserve to lose your money. I don't mean to sound harsh, but come on, are you really this flucking gullible? I have some land in Florida.........

Tiger
11-20-2004, 09:16 PM
Did you put it in a picture frame to display it to your friends?

1000_eyez
11-21-2004, 11:47 AM
I went through it at one time when I was selling my jeep. I actually received a cashiers check...took it to my bank and they said it's a counterfiet. Don't do it!

DueyT
11-22-2004, 12:03 AM
You could do this...Scamming the scammer...the P-p-p-powerbook (http://www.p-p-p-powerbook.com/).

Sell him a B-b-b-b-MW! :p

Cheers,
Duey

infinity5
11-22-2004, 01:00 AM
wow, that has to be the funniest thing i've read in a long long time. excellent. i only wish they had reached the guy. didn't they finally get his real number? hehehehe.. man that made my night.

i can just imagine making a b-b-bmw :) maybe glue some BMW roundels on a kia.. geo.. ;) ha!


You could do this...Scamming the scammer...the P-p-p-powerbook (http://www.p-p-p-powerbook.com/).

Sell him a B-b-b-b-MW! :p

Cheers,
Duey

Tiger
11-22-2004, 09:26 AM
Mmm... still at where it ended last time I read it...

all2kool
11-22-2004, 04:46 PM
I think the best way to put these *******s out of business is to let them send you a check via FedEx overnight. Makes them put out some of their hard stolen money for nothing. That's how I have collected two checks so far. I knew it was a scam before the first check arrived.