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Russell
12-05-2004, 06:35 PM
I have used Mobil 1 0w40 for the past 16,000 or so miles. I have changed oil and filter (Mann) every 4,000 to 4,500 miles. I have never had the oil stay amber colored for long. It seems to get dark quickly. For example, my current oil has only 2,500 miles and feels a bit gritty when run between my fingers. Car runs fine. Is anything-wrong going on here?

I may be just a bit paranoid. TIA

Tiger
12-05-2004, 07:43 PM
Maybe your engine is coked up in the first place whereas the synthetic knocked them loose and cleaned your engine...

Russell
12-05-2004, 07:50 PM
I have gone through several oil/filter changes. Would have thoughtti would be cleaned out by now?? Thanks



Maybe your engine is coked up in the first place whereas the synthetic knocked them loose and cleaned your engine...

Bill R.
12-05-2004, 08:22 PM
valves i notice a little less buildup in the head in the valve cover and inside surfaces of the head, it looks like synthetic oil has a nice slow detergent process cleaning up all the old buildup, varnish and sludge slowly....I wouldn't be too concerned about yours.





I have gone through several oil/filter changes. Would have thoughtti would be cleaned out by now?? Thanks

Bruno
12-05-2004, 08:39 PM
valves i notice a little less buildup in the head in the valve cover and inside surfaces of the head, it looks like synthetic oil has a nice slow detergent process cleaning up all the old buildup, varnish and sludge slowly....I wouldn't be too concerned about yours.

That is why it starts creating leaks sometimes.... cleaning up the seals and gaskets.
I am always worried about switching to synthetic on old engines...

Russell
12-05-2004, 09:50 PM
That is why it starts creating leaks sometimes.... cleaning up the seals and gaskets.
I am always worried about switching to synthetic on old engines...

Tiger
12-05-2004, 10:06 PM
If you are really concerned, do a oil analysis service.

632 Regal
12-05-2004, 10:21 PM
if you get leaks after changing to a good oil you have issues about your gaskets not an oil.

Russell
12-06-2004, 05:29 AM
no leaks at present

Dick Schneiders
12-06-2004, 08:10 AM
It was in the early days, but for some time synthetics have an additive that helps expand seals to prevent this. If you do get a leak after changing to synthetic, then I think you probably had a lot of gunk that was preventing the seal from even getting lubricated by any oil at all. Not a good situation and one that needed to be corrected.




That is why it starts creating leaks sometimes.... cleaning up the seals and gaskets.
I am always worried about switching to synthetic on old engines...

cary
12-06-2004, 11:59 AM
As somebody else noted, if you are concerned, you should take a sample of oil and sent it for analysis. Given you are changing your oil every 4000 or so miles and can easily run it 7500 for a normal change interval, the $20-30 for a used oil analysis is well worth it. Check www.blackstonelabs.com for analysis. Also, Bobistheoilguy.com.

Russell
12-06-2004, 07:01 PM
I have the blackstone "kit". I also posted on Bobistheoilguy.com,


As somebody else noted, if you are concerned, you should take a sample of oil and sent it for analysis. Given you are changing your oil every 4000 or so miles and can easily run it 7500 for a normal change interval, the $20-30 for a used oil analysis is well worth it. Check www.blackstonelabs.com for analysis. Also, Bobistheoilguy.com.

chamilun
12-06-2004, 07:36 PM
if synthetics are 'thinner', wouldnt they tend to leak more?

cary
12-06-2004, 07:52 PM
if synthetics are 'thinner', wouldnt they tend to leak more?

Repeat this 100 times, "Synthetics are not thinner". Think about this, if at 212F (the temp that the second number in a multiweight oil comes from, i.e. 20, 20, 40, 50, 60) if a 40 weight synthetic were "thinner" than mineral oil, it would not be 40 weight, it would be 30 weight (oils actually fall in a range, for 30 weight it is 10.1-12.5cst@ 100c). If a synthetic oil 10w-40 oil were thinner at the cold pumping test (in the case of 10w oils at -15c if I recall correctly), it would be called 5w-40, not 10w-40.

chamilun
12-06-2004, 08:07 PM
just a myth i picked up from a mechanic a few years back

Dick Schneiders
12-07-2004, 06:23 AM
is exactly the same "thickness" as a 10w-30 non-synthetic oil.



if synthetics are 'thinner', wouldnt they tend to leak more?

Tiger
12-07-2004, 10:41 AM
It is just a more slippery sucker.