Hartge muffler advice needed

[billy in slo]

BMP has some old stock Hartge mufflers made by supersprint, list is like 950.00 and they are selling for 300.00, have around 6 available. The deal is they are listed for 90-95 525i but in the supersprint catalog the 90 535 uses the same muffler as the 90-95 525 so these Hartge's should fit my 535 using my fuzzy logic. Any thoughts/opinions on the Hartge or supersprint mufflers as to sound and/or performance?
thanks
billy 90 535iA

[shragon]

i like my supersprint. it's a little louder and deeper than stock. when you floor it, it sounds awesome. very nice performance sound all around. does not drone the cabin. do not expect any performance gains.

that's a very good price on a full system.

[billy in slo]

It would be a great price for the whole system but it is the price for muffler only.

[shragon]

still cheaper (supersprint rear muffler is $462.76).

[billy in slo]

Actually trying to get some more opinions as to whether it will fit and work on my 90 535. Here is the link to the supersprint application that lists the same muffler for the m50 525 and m30 535 thus my reasoning that the Hartge for the 525 will fit my 535.
see page 41 http://www.supersprintna.com/catalog/2004/Supersprint-Catalog.pdf

[mholbrook]

I just ordered one. Talked to the rep and he says that if you take it to a muffler shop there will be no real problem. The pipes do not line up exactly with the stock pre-muffler pipes but a shop will be able to fix that ez. With Supersprint, you have to buy the pre and muffler piece as well as an install kit which makes everything line up. I doubt a muffler shop will charge you more than about $50 to install.

Mike Holbrook

[billy in slo]

nt

[Kennan]

$300 is a very nice price. How much would it cost to get it installed?

Also, do you have a link to get it at this price.

[darthmaul]

anyone got a link? i checked the site under "bimmer bargains" and didn't see any left...

[travis]

Here you go:

http://www.bmpdesign.com/exhaust/hartge/hartgeblowout.html

[billy in slo]

this is the body of the email I received from BMP, talk to Travis at x223 he did not even know about the sale, I had to email him the link from BMP. They had 6 at the time, good luck.

Hartge Blowout: Supersprint Super Muffler as LOW AS $300.00 : For M3 e30, 318Ti, Z3 1.9, 525i m50, 540i e39 As most of you know Supersprint has been the O.E. muffler manufacturer for Hartge for many years. As the Previous exclusive importer of Hartge products we have found a whole stack of the Hartge mufflers in our warehouse. Below is a list at unbelievable savings. These are priced below our cost! We need the space and we just don't care!
M3 e30 #158666 $400.00, 318ti, Z3 1.9 #158682 $300.00, 525I M50 #158674 $300.00
Order now at 1-800-648-7278 ext: 1

YOU WILL NEVER SEE THESE PRICES THIS LOW AGAIN! ONCE THEY'RE GONE, DON'T COME CRYIN'TO ME!

************************************************** ******************************************

[billy in slo]

.

[darthmaul]

just placed an order online....hope it works!

anyone want to buy my stock muffler with chrome tips?

=)

[Kennan]

In the bimmer bargains section, they have hartge shocks and springs for $800-900. Anyone know how this would compare to a sachs kit?

[Anton CH.]

Anyone has any sound clips of it? I like the sound of eisenmann but too expensive.

[shragon]

Actually trying to get some more opinions as to whether it will fit and work on my 90 535. Here is the link to the supersprint application that lists the same muffler for the m50 525 and m30 535 thus my reasoning that the Hartge for the 525 will fit my 535.
see page 41 http://www.supersprintna.com/catalog/2004/Supersprint-Catalog.pdf
my guess is that you are right. i would make the same conclusion.


I just ordered one. Talked to the rep and he says that if you take it to a muffler shop there will be no real problem. The pipes do not line up exactly with the stock pre-muffler pipes but a shop will be able to fix that ez. With Supersprint, you have to buy the pre and muffler piece as well as an install kit which makes everything line up. I doubt a muffler shop will charge you more than about $50 to install.

Mike Holbrook
this is what i actually did with my supersprint. i got the supersprint rear muffler used. when i was inquiring about a new rear supersprint muffler, bmp kept insisting i needed the premuffler. i didn't think so, so i took it to a muffler shop, had the original muffler cut off and the supersprint welded on in it's place. works and sounds great. and iirc, it was around $50 or so. i have a friend with an e28 that did the same exact thing.

[billy in slo]

I just ordered one. Talked to the rep and he says that if you take it to a muffler shop there will be no real problem. The pipes do not line up exactly with the stock pre-muffler pipes but a shop will be able to fix that ez. With Supersprint, you have to buy the pre and muffler piece as well as an install kit which makes everything line up. I doubt a muffler shop will charge you more than about $50 to install.

Mike Holbrook

very excited, can't wait to see how it sounds
cheers, billy
OBTW very cool Hartge tip

[darthmaul]

arrived last night.

i almost missed it because it was pitch black outside and i saw this huge box sitting in my planter...hehe

i'll open it up soon and take some pics for you all!

[mholbrook]

Yup, I received mine too. Got too much going on for an install this week. Maybe next week I can get to this. I had my car up last nite and I can see my stock muffler is not long for this world. So have to get after it soon. Probably take it to a muffler shop and have them do it right. I have a great one right close in Casa de Oro (Spring Valley, CA).

Yes, very cool tip. I also got the Hartge strut brace from eBay yesterday. I'll be all looking Harge pretty soon.!

Mike Holbrook
89 535im

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