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Thread: Saying goodbye to the M20 525... and hello TDS!

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    Default Saying goodbye to the M20 525... and hello TDS!

    'lo!

    Saw an absolute belter of a car the other day, and seeing as the 525i is on the peaky side with beaten up bodywork and knackered paint, I thought I'd go the extra mile and nab it... it was either that or a pug 406:



    Money going down in the next few days, then it's all mine Here's the specs:

    Aircon
    Auto
    Full BMW service history
    1994/5 post facelift model
    Bodywork is absolutely perfect
    72k miles
    all for £3495! Mebbe a bit expensive, but worth it given the age, milage, and rarity of these things round here

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    Looks very nice, in Australia it would be about $10,000 or so! also like the colour.
    mine is dark blue.
    enjoy

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    Default I really like the look of that one!!

    I wonder why?!!!
    ^°^ ><((({º>°°

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    How do the turbo diesel versions perform? I know the new BMW diesels can out perform their petrol counterparts in both the 0-60, and passing acceleration speeds.... how does the 525tds compare to the 525i?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jplacson
    How do the turbo diesel versions perform? I know the new BMW diesels can out perform their petrol counterparts in both the 0-60, and passing acceleration speeds.... how does the 525tds compare to the 525i?
    Well, there is a "slight" difference in horsepower - around 50 HP, in favour of 525i M21/M51 is pretty sluggish. Newer common-rail diesels outperform them easily.
    BMW E34 528i, M52B28 + M50 manifold, Remus exhaust, ///M Parallel Spoke 18" rims

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interceptor
    Well, there is a "slight" difference in horsepower - around 50 HP, in favour of 525i M21/M51 is pretty sluggish. Newer common-rail diesels outperform them easily.
    The torque is amazing though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon K
    The torque is amazing though.
    I agree. 525tds is an excellent car for relaxed cruising together with all the luxury E34 has, at a substantially lower price per kilometer/mile. But, I must admit that I don't feel very secure when overtaking cars at higher speeds - diesels are just not good for it due to their power distribution characteristics.
    BMW E34 528i, M52B28 + M50 manifold, Remus exhaust, ///M Parallel Spoke 18" rims

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    but what about start-stop traffic sprints? Wouldn't the diesel's low-end torque be more useful for city sprints, over the 525i?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jplacson
    but what about start-stop traffic sprints? Wouldn't the diesel's low-end torque be more useful for city sprints, over the 525i?
    Actually - no. Diesel engines have heavier moving parts thus making them lazy and sluggish on start. That's why diesels are used in heavy trucks that require a lot of pulling power. You don't see a race/rally car use a diesel, do you?
    BMW E34 528i, M52B28 + M50 manifold, Remus exhaust, ///M Parallel Spoke 18" rims

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    That's actually what I was wondering. Always wondered why with so much low-end torque, diesels don't make good GT cars.

    So only the new common-rail ones have any chance of beating their petrol counterparts in terms of performance?

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