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Thread: Variation of the ignition key lock problem

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    Default Variation of the ignition key lock problem

    Hi everyone,

    I did some searching on the common steering lock problem wherein fellow e34 drivers cannot start their car because the key will not turn past a certain point.

    I have a similar problem where i have no problem starting the vehicle, it's when i turn off the engine. I feel resistance turning the key and the key is a bit more difficult to take out. This happens half the time. In addition, i get the "key in ignition" warning message although the key has been taken out.

    I plan to grab some locksmith's graphite (same as graphite dust? is it a spray?) and lube up the cylinder, using the advice of evan's website for removal
    http://evansweb.info/article.php?sto...30119001513995

    Has anybody come upon this similar problem? Most posts are about steering lock and not being able to start the car.


    much appreciated,
    chapman

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    You can try rubbing a pencil tip (graphite) on the key and inserting it a few times. The internal lock parts are most likely sticking and not returning to their neutral positions.
    DanH
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    If you squirt locksmith's graphite into the lock, go easy. It goes everywhere, fast. Most likely if the key is difficult to pull straight out, then it's a problem within the lock cylinder, and BMA sells a pre-keyed replacement for $58. I went ahead and replaced my old one, which was pretty worn after only ~15 years, and it's alot smoother with the BMA replacement.

    If key removal is difficult because the key won't readily turn back to the default neutral (insertion) position, then the problem MAY be with the steering lock mechanism, which has a small bit that may break and jam the works.

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    I just had the same thing happen to me the other day, where I got the Key In Ignition warning. And I have the same resistance problem. I was gonna try and tackle it this weekend with the graphite treatment. Keep us updated. I will as well-

    Quote Originally Posted by chapmanw
    Hi everyone,

    I did some searching on the common steering lock problem wherein fellow e34 drivers cannot start their car because the key will not turn past a certain point.

    I have a similar problem where i have no problem starting the vehicle, it's when i turn off the engine. I feel resistance turning the key and the key is a bit more difficult to take out. This happens half the time. In addition, i get the "key in ignition" warning message although the key has been taken out.

    I plan to grab some locksmith's graphite (same as graphite dust? is it a spray?) and lube up the cylinder, using the advice of evan's website for removal
    http://evansweb.info/article.php?sto...30119001513995

    Has anybody come upon this similar problem? Most posts are about steering lock and not being able to start the car.


    much appreciated,
    chapman

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    Default Our e34's are already at least 10+ yr-old...

    It's a good idea to check the iginition key...

    If anyone has already did yours, could you pls write up the instructions...to share w/ all of us.
    '95 BMW-540i/Auto (ZF-5HP30)...NO reverse
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    depending on the year some cars have a cable going to the shifter that could cause problems if it or it's linkage is sticking
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    Quote Originally Posted by LMUNick
    I just had the same thing happen to me the other day, where I got the Key In Ignition warning. And I have the same resistance problem. I was gonna try and tackle it this weekend with the graphite treatment. Keep us updated. I will as well-
    Here's a quick update.

    I tried getting the cylinder out but didn't have much luck. I only spent a few minutes on it.

    Anyhow, I decided to just try the locksmith's graphite powder before proceeding any further. It seemed to do the trick. The key is turning perfectly so far. There's no resistance when shutting off the car. The key in the ignition messge has also disappeared.

    I'll see how long this holds up before deciding to remove the cylinder.

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