Did anyone see Schumi make his "mistake" in qualifying for Monaco's F1 last weekend??

[SharkmanBMW]

The 7 time world champ Shumacher, is he playing dirty again...?


http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/en/head...30014623.shtml

[GoldenOne]

haha, yes i saw that and wondered if he did that on purpose or not, i think it was...

[sKilled]

Just because he's Schumi doesn't mean he doesn't screw up, ever. I give him the benefit of the doubt - especially when you see him waving at the stewards to push him back so he could get out of the way and them looking the other way. And why was Fisi only penalised by 4 spots on the grid for 'intentional blocking'? Doesn't seem fair.

[SharkmanBMW]

I would have penalized him 10 spots, from the cockpit shots, his steering goes straight at the wall, he has no reason to do that, unless he wants to go straight!
He was going around a slow corner, so he wasn't sliding or out of control...

I would like to have seen him get a do over... meaning the others have gotten another 2 laps to compensate.
Alonso (who I dislike), would have likely still gotten pole.

I want to see Kimi get some better luck! poor guy, always going down in flames!

[jrobbo]

Just another in the very long list of "incidents" involving Schumi. It makes me wonder how many "incidents" he's had where he hasn't been caught. I also wonder how many of his 7 world championships he would have won if he had just played fair and square. His 1995 championship, won in the last race in Adelaide, has always been a bit dubious.

The thing that frustrates me is that he is clearly the best driver that F1 has seen since Ayrton Senna, so why does he contnually pull stunts like this? And I don't beleive that it's just him, it's Schumi/Todt/Brawn.

Anyway, just my $0.02

Regards

John

[sKilled]

Just another in the very long list of "incidents" involving Schumi. It makes me wonder how many "incidents" he's had where he hasn't been caught. I also wonder how many of his 7 world championships he would have won if he had just played fair and square. His 1995 championship, won in the last race in Adelaide, has always been a bit dubious.

The thing that frustrates me is that he is clearly the best driver that F1 has seen since Ayrton Senna, so why does he contnually pull stunts like this? And I don't beleive that it's just him, it's Schumi/Todt/Brawn.

Anyway, just my $0.02

Regards

John

Who doesn't 'cheat' in the F1 at some point and time, or any top sport for that matter? One just focuses on the sporting greats, but that doesn't mean that such acts of indiscretion are restricted to them - see High school football players and steroids.

[jrobbo]

Who doesn't 'cheat' in the F1 at some point and time, or any top sport for that matter? One just focuses on the sporting greats, but that doesn't mean that such acts of indiscretion are restricted to them - see High school football players and steroids.

That's a fair point, and a valid one. With Schumi though, I can sit here and reel off a list of his "incidents" as long as your arm, without having to put too much though into it. The most obvious one is Jerez in 1997. He denied that one for ages until he finally owned up and admitted it. But that's just one, there are many more. With any other driver in the field, If I thought long and hard about it, I could find one or maybe two indiscretions, but not a whole list.

Like I said, the guy is clearly the best driver out there, and he is also the most complete champion, I don't understand why he (and Todt and Brawn) has to pull these stunts time and time again.

Anyway, I'n glad he was penalised for it. And I also admire his tenacity in coming home in 5th place after starting from pit lane, once again proving how good he is.

Regards

John

[NY535iManual]

I am not a Schumacher fan by any means (his overbearing arrogance overwhelms any joy he might feel on "winning"), but I will of course grant that everyone makes mistakes, including him. I have no problem with drivers wanting to win so badly that they're willing to slip a knife between another competitors ribs in order to win (see, e.g., Senna, Lauda), in fact I admire this trait. BUT it is only right to do so in a fair (that is to say, head to head) fight, not when you scheme to AVOID going head to head. Be clever, be ruthless, have bigger balls, but DON't be sneaky and then with a wink and a poker face lie about it. Name the truly great champions of the modern era: JYS, Lauda, Piquet, Prost, Senna, Mika. (This list is one that often generates lots of controversy, but thats for another thread Popular or not, beloved or not, to me they had the thing that Schumacher seems to be short on: Integrity.

Just my $.02...

[Jay 535i]

He should have been banned from the sport after his Jerez 1997 behaviour.

It's been almost ten years and I still don't forgive him for that.

[SharkmanBMW]

my fav was also "jerez '97" when he tried to run Villeneuve off the track as he was being passed for the championship! blatant dirtbag move!
Being a home fan of Jaques Villeneuve, we all freaked.... I have never truly forgiven Shumi for that, I agree he is the best, but he's got some issues.

you guys have made some good points... integrity is something he lacks, but not skill.
It is a shame he would tarnish his recent record of decency with a move like that.
But you are right, it is Ferrari, not just Shumi who is dirty.