The begining of the end (this forum)
Brian C said it best:
Brian C. 1995 525ia
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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OK...I just had to give my 2cts worth...
I really haven't had the time or need to participate in the forum's activities in a while. I've had too many family responsibilities to deal with and too many long nights driving. After I sold my E34, I liked to stay around and shoot the sh!t with others, have a little fun, and direct questions that I had an idea about to either people who might have the answers or to the ba-zillion bookmarks that I've saved with E34 info that might also help.
Then it started.
Gayle, you undoubtedly are a great person, and many of your insights are wonderfully different in a way that "we" here were not usually exposed to. At least not here on-line. But then...and I'm only speaking for myself...it seemed the more familiar and friendly you got, always addressing everyone by their names instead of their logins, being one who directed conversations to "stay focused", and publicly announcing that you wanted to have private conversations, the more...again, to me...it seemed that you wanted this to not just be A place to come, but YOUR place to come to. Just a few examples:
"Everyone's mailboxes are full after this episode. There has been a lot of PM going on. Everyone please clean them out so communication can resume."
"I will pm you and anyone else who needs it spelled out for them."
"Focus Winfred. We know you can do it."
"Winfred--You really have problems with focus, but hey, its ok. We all love you. What is a good thread without a little hijack now and then?"
"The grapevine also informed me that that my campaign to bring respect and civility to this place was seen as princess powers and an attempt to turn this into a girlie world."
I played along previously, but after a while, it seemed that all of the need for ORDER to the activities here just took away so much from the Bimmernut experience that I've decided to just fade away. The idea that we were just a bunch of uncivil, foul-mouthed guys who wanted to talk about cars, boobs, fart jokes, and occasionally anything else we wanted to was the reason most of us came here in the first place. We never apologized for being cavemen, because WE DIDN'T CARE. We didn't worry about female perspective on things such as order, focus and civility because we never had any, or at least many, females around. And then came your "campaign to bring respect and civility to this place" suddenly our freedom to be as we liked, was now not in step with your plans. It wasn't good, bad, or otherwise, it just was the way it was and I think we all kinda liked it that way. Most men don't take well to change, especially when others provoke that change, and...my thoughts alone, again...REALLY especially when women provoke that change for what we think are reasons we don't follow or agree with. And I think, really, that none of the change has been bad or good or anything else, it's just change, evolution.
I don't have ill feelings for ANYONE on this board. From the oldest fossils to the newest of newbies, everyone here has contributed to what "Bimmernut" is today. For me, it's just gotten to where it isn't as fun as it once was. I think a lot of that has to do with my personal life, but it seems more like work than fun to participate anymore. I'll still be around one in a while, but just in the background more.
Peace
Brian C.
BTW...........did we ever establish what ryan's job is yet???
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